Drilling through hard tiles
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Drilling through hard tiles
Guys,
does anyone have a diamond-tipped drill-bit or similar to drill a screw-hole through a hard (ceramic?) bathroom tile?
I have tried with a masonry drill-bit but it's just way too hard. A cursory look through HomePro found no specialised bits.
Bristolian/Danny Boy??
I need a 5mm bit.
GN.
does anyone have a diamond-tipped drill-bit or similar to drill a screw-hole through a hard (ceramic?) bathroom tile?
I have tried with a masonry drill-bit but it's just way too hard. A cursory look through HomePro found no specialised bits.
Bristolian/Danny Boy??
I need a 5mm bit.
GN.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
Sorry, I don't have a suitable drill bit, like you I only have the normal masonary drills and have yet to find a tile that they will not drill. However if you are looking for a special tungsten carbide or diamond drill i suggest you try the tool shop on Phetkasem road, just a few shops north of soi 56.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
are you using a hammer drill?
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
18V Makita cordless and no hammer action....splitlid wrote:are you using a hammer drill?
Edit: 14.4V Makita not 18V as originally posted above.
Bristolian, thanks for the reply.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
I have a Makita SDS Hammer Drill and whilst I don't know the exact technical term, when you put the drill bit onto a tile, the drill bit holder slips slightly inside the mounting and this action helps to break the glaze on the tile. Then it's relatively easy to drill through the tile using a normal carbide tipped drill bit. Not sure if they all work this way, but certainly works for me. Thai Watsadu have a good selection of drills and drill bits.Ginjaninja wrote:Guys,
does anyone have a diamond-tipped drill-bit or similar to drill a screw-hole through a hard (ceramic?) bathroom tile?
I have tried with a masonry drill-bit but it's just way too hard. A cursory look through HomePro found no specialised bits.
Bristolian/Danny Boy??
I need a 5mm bit.
GN.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
Therein lies the problem, you really do need a hammer action drill.Ginjaninja wrote:18V Makita cordless and no hammer action....splitlid wrote:are you using a hammer drill?
Bristolian, thanks for the reply.
Found this cheeky chap whilst on Google street-view of Soi 56
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
I've never drilled through tiles before so consulted YouTube and the vidoes advised not to use the hammer-action as it may crack the tiles.... I think I'd just prefer to get the correct bit so will check out T.W. and that toolshop Bristolian was referring to.Dannie Boy wrote:Therein lies the problem, you really do need a hammer action drill.
Unless of course someone nearby has a bit they can lend me.
GN.
Re: Drilling through hard tiles
Never had a problem drilling through tiles, I always put a cross ( + ) of masking tape over the hole to be drilled and drill through that, start off slow until I see dust appear and then speed up the drill.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
There's some good instruction videos on YouTube.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
maybe I was wrong withthe hammer action - some useful advice hereGinjaninja wrote:I've never drilled through tiles before so consulted YouTube and the vidoes advised not to use the hammer-action as it may crack the tiles.... I think I'd just prefer to get the correct bit so will check out T.W. and that toolshop Bristolian was referring to.Dannie Boy wrote:Therein lies the problem, you really do need a hammer action drill.
Unless of course someone nearby has a bit they can lend me.
GN.
Tile Drilling
Note that a variable speed drill is very useful for this task. Many "ordinary" (i.e. glazed pottery style) tiles can be drilled with a masonry bit. Basic dedicated tile drill-bits, have a flat spear shaped head, and a plane shank with no flutes.
Start drilling by placing the point of the drill against the tile and pushing hard. You should hear a slight crackling sound as you puncture the glaze at the point of the drill-bit (if the whole tile cracks then that is an indication that it was not "bedded onto" the tile adhesive correctly!). Now start the drill and use a slow speed with more pressure than usual. The drill-bit should cut through the glaze and into the tile backing. Once through the glaze you can speed up the drill. (Don't use hammer action until you are through the tile and into the wall). If you are using a special tile drill-bit, then it is better to swap to a more appropriate type of drill for the material behind the tiles. Don't use the expensive tile drill-bit for drilling the masonry or whatever material is behind the tile!
Some tiles (especially porcelain ones) are very hard, and consequently very hard to drill. If you try to drill one of these using the above method you will have a very hot and useless drill-bit before you are even through the glaze on the first hole. Water cooling is essential. Either use the dam technique described in the section above on glass drilling, or use a water spray (the "pump up" garden variety is good for this. You can also get sprays designed for the purpose that have a collar fitted to the spray head to mount on the nose spigot of many drills.
For the hardest tiles you may need to invest in a professional tile drill-bit with a solid carbide tip. These typically cost over £20 each and may only last for 15 holes! They must be used with high pressure (25kg of weight behind the drill is common), with water cooling, and with a closely controlled speed - often between 700 and 900 rpm. Read the manufactures instructions carefully since you are paying over £1 a hole even if you look after the bit so that it enjoys a long and productive life!
If that all sounds like too much trouble then consider using a diamond disc in a small angle grinder to cut around the thing you were planning to drill a hole for!
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
just use a hammer drill and get it done in 2 seconds.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
Likewise - I've always used this methodJD wrote:Never had a problem drilling through tiles, I always put a cross ( + ) of masking tape over the hole to be drilled and drill through that, start off slow until I see dust appear and then speed up the drill.
Easy and foolproof
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
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This is what I've done and I've got it started but can't make progress pass 0.5-1mm.
So the question is; am I safe to use the hammer action or should I wait till I procure some decent bits?
Cheers for the help guys.
GN.
This is what I've done and I've got it started but can't make progress pass 0.5-1mm.
So the question is; am I safe to use the hammer action or should I wait till I procure some decent bits?
Cheers for the help guys.
GN.
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Re: Drilling through hard tiles
I've never used a hammer action drill on tiles - for reasons already stated.
Get some decent bits
Get some decent bits