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dozer wrote:This is probably too late, but if you are not in Thailand, you can get someone else to register for you, just take a photo of the SIM card and the person at the other end can secure registration.
I'm going to go and register mine today, which won't be a problem. I had been hoping to register both of my parents' phones for them as well, as they are out of the country just now. So, I can't just give them the phone numbers? I need a photo of the SIM as well?
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Sabai Sabai wrote:
dozer wrote:This is probably too late, but if you are not in Thailand, you can get someone else to register for you, just take a photo of the SIM card and the person at the other end can secure registration.
I'm going to go and register mine today, which won't be a problem. I had been hoping to register both of my parents' phones for them as well, as they are out of the country just now. So, I can't just give them the phone numbers? I need a photo of the SIM as well?
12call at MV requred a photo of the SIM card.
My wife went to register my private one, which I have with me and I had completely forgotten about and that was would they asked for.
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You certainly can't do it with just a phone number. I tried that and they insisted I brought the phone in
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Pleng wrote:What on earth have you been getting up to with your SIM card that makes you so worried???
i am not talking about me...
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Back in Thailand for annual visit. Tried to buy sim at 7/11 as usual and not permitted. Then bought prepaid sim with necessary registration at phone shop. My question is do I have to top up credits at phone shop or can this be done at the local 7/11
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^ You can top up using any available method now that you're registered.
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NBTC seeks extension for prepaid SIMs deadline

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... s-deadline

The telecom regulator will ask the government if it can extend the July 31 registration deadline by another three months after 16.9 million people have failed to register prepaid SIM cards used in their mobile phones.
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I'm all signed up, but I don't really understand the finer points of all this. What if you've lost your phone or it's been stolen? Can't you simply buy a new one and then register that?
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dtaai-maai wrote:I'm all signed up, but I don't really understand the finer points of all this. What if you've lost your phone or it's been stolen? Can't you simply buy a new one and then register that?
I don`t believe it has anything to do with "phones". You can buy as many phones as you want, but if you want to use them with a SIM card, then the supplier is only "supposed" to sell the SIM after registering it.
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the government wants EVERYONE'S name and ID number associated with every type of cellphone communication. They can and will go back to see who has been talking to whom. that is why so many people are letting their old unregistered SIM card and number go.

your SIM card is now linked to your name and Thai ID or passport number. It is not your phone that is registered. Your SIM card is what makes your phone unique and links all your communications TO YOU. Think of it like a license plate for all your cellphone communications.
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Nereus wrote:
dtaai-maai wrote:I'm all signed up, but I don't really understand the finer points of all this. What if you've lost your phone or it's been stolen? Can't you simply buy a new one and then register that?
I don`t believe it has anything to do with "phones". You can buy as many phones as you want, but if you want to use them with a SIM card, then the supplier is only "supposed" to sell the SIM after registering it.
Sorry, I realise that of course, but my point remains valid - if you really don't want the records of your current SIM card available for scrutiny, then ditch it and get a new one. That will have to be registered, obviously, but I don't really understand what all the fuss is about, unless it's just the principle involved.
It's not going to have any impact on my life or on any calls I make, all of which are so mundane they don't even interest me.
JamesWest wrote:the government wants EVERYONE'S name and ID number associated with every type of cellphone communication. They can and will go back to see who has been talking to whom.
Well, they obviously won't be going back over all the calls on 50 million phones (ok SIM cards) - why would they? They don't have the staff, the funding, the technical infrastructure, etc. etc. to do anything of any significance. As far as I'm concerned this is all a storm in a teacup and I honestly don't understand why anyone on here gives a toss.

Mind you, I feel that way about most of the issues everyone gets so het up about... :laugh:
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dtaai-maai wrote:
Nereus wrote:
dtaai-maai wrote:I'm all signed up, but I don't really understand the finer points of all this. What if you've lost your phone or it's been stolen? Can't you simply buy a new one and then register that?
I don`t believe it has anything to do with "phones". You can buy as many phones as you want, but if you want to use them with a SIM card, then the supplier is only "supposed" to sell the SIM after registering it.
Sorry, I realise that of course, but my point remains valid - if you really don't want the records of your current SIM card available for scrutiny, then ditch it and get a new one. That will have to be registered, obviously, but I don't really understand what all the fuss is about, unless it's just the principle involved.
It's not going to have any impact on my life or on any calls I make, all of which are so mundane they don't even interest me.
JamesWest wrote:the government wants EVERYONE'S name and ID number associated with every type of cellphone communication. They can and will go back to see who has been talking to whom.
Well, they obviously won't be going back over all the calls on 50 million phones (ok SIM cards) - why would they? They don't have the staff, the funding, the technical infrastructure, etc. etc. to do anything of any significance. As far as I'm concerned this is all a storm in a teacup and I honestly don't understand why anyone on here gives a toss.

Mind you, I feel that way about most of the issues everyone gets so het up about... :laugh:
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Do you remember the flap about the Israelis that were arrested in Thailand not long ago? What were they doing? Selling bagels?

http://phuketwan.com/tourism/thailands- ... kok-22418/

So once your SIM is registered, anyone who has ever had a converstion with anyone on a "list" is now on that "list".
Remember some communication apps like LINE need a phone number to be activated. So many previously anonymous accounts have just gone dead.

It is good you don't care, because you are a straight arrow, and most people here on this forum just play golf and go boom boom, so they don't care. but the reason for the registration remains the same.

So from now on, no one can make a cellphone call or send a text that has not been assigned to someone. And from now on, don't lend you phone to anyone, the bomb you set off may not be your own.
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JamesWest wrote: I can tell you for a fact EVERYTHING is on a server in Utah. That is as far as I will go here today.
I hope that one day you will divulge your knowledge of the NSA to us public fools.

Knowing for a fact insinuates that you are aware of how data is being recorded, where in reality only those in the inner circle of US security would know such facts for sure, and they wouldn't even go that far today or tomorrow on a public forum.

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Many people registered multiple sims in their name for convenience. A m/cycle taxi took over 50 phones/sims to 7/11 and registered all in his name. A service (which I'm sure made him a tip) for his whole village. If one is used for illegal purposes, try to track that one down.
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HHTel wrote:Many people registered multiple sims in their name for convenience. A m/cycle taxi took over 50 phones/sims to 7/11 and registered all in his name. A service (which I'm sure made him a tip) for his whole village. If one is used for illegal purposes, try to track that one down.
well now the system will show him as having 50 SIM cards registered in his name because you can search by name, SIM, phone number, MAC and IP address and other information. so it will all come back on him.

or not, this is thailand so those 50 phones are maybe for cops. :shock:

and it is not a perfect system, but that is what waterboarding is for. :)
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