The Beer Thread

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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by Big Boy » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:42 am

Shock/horror - something mis-reported by the press :shock: . 100 Baht/bottle isn't as bad as 150 Baht/glass, but still probably over-priced. OK, probably a completely different class, but you can buy a large bottle of Archa for under 38 Baht/bottle, which includes an element of tax.

IMHO somebody must have shopped him, because there are often adverts on Facebook showing people offering to sell their craft beer within Thailand. Somebody must have been pretty jealous to get him shut down on his first day of trading.
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by buksida » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:52 am

All beer is overpriced here, but I'd rather have a micro-brewed pale ale than a bottle of tasteless, chemical laced, hangover inducing Thai lager any day. I believe the two families that run the beer monopoly in Thailand have forced the governments hand in creating a law than bans microbreweries and hence any competition for them.
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by Big Boy » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:29 am

As you know, I can't drink Thai beer anyway :cry:

I don't disagree regarding there is definitely a place for craft brewing here. My point is this guy started by charging people too much, and Thailand being Thailand there were a few green eyed monsters whose jealousy probably got the better of them and they shopped him.

Either that, or he didn't grease the right palms. Maybe as a law student, he thought he knew it all.
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by caller » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:29 am

I honestly don't think 100 baht for a bottle of locally brewed beer is OTT, if the quality and style of beer is up to scratch. I was quite happy drinking Archa in the past, but its a mass produced not especially high quality product that sells in very large numbers. Wherever you go, locally produced ale via a micro brewery or whatever, costs more, as the cost of production is higher.
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Post by STEVE G » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:06 pm

prcscct wrote:The Khaosod article states...."The 19 licenseor Act states beer can only be made in a factory or brewpub. A 2000 Finance Ministry regulation says for producers to gain legal status, they must make more than 100,000 liters per year and be a limited company with capital of at least 10 million baht."....

No surprise who that favours. The small guy has to produce 274 liters a day seven days a week, plus come up with 10 million Baht capital. When they screw you down, they really screw you down.

They make becoming legal unobtainable for most, and then change the penalties to totally crush anyone who attempts a small start-up. Pete :cheers:
Perhaps some kind of cooperative might work, get one license and put several microbreweries together on the same site. It would probably work in a normal country but in Thailand, you could never be sure that the rules wouldn't be changed again to protect the established monopolies.

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Post by prcscct » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:30 pm

^ There's an editorial or letter (somewhere again?) today or yesterday about farmers forming cooperatives. The micro beer people have a better chance as some seem educated. The farmers, someone will have to hold their hand and walk them through all of it. Pete
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Post by caller » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:44 pm

It's interesting, the little clashes that keep cropping up, in various walks of life, this being an example of that. People that want to try and experience new things being held back by the establishment. Excuse the pun, but it's a part of a pattern that could actually ferment the unrest the junta are trying so hard to suppress.
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Post by prcscct » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:56 pm

^ You'll drive yourself crazy thinking like that here Caller, you really will. I can't stop myself though, which will lead to an early grave I'm sure. C'est la vie, Thai style. :( Pete :cheers:
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Post by dtaai-maai » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:26 am

caller wrote:It's interesting, the little clashes that keep cropping up, in various walks of life, this being an example of that. People that want to try and experience new things being held back by the establishment. Excuse the pun, but it's a part of a pattern that could actually ferment the unrest the junta are trying so hard to suppress.
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Post by Nereus » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:26 am

Here is why it not going to change anytime soon:
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Police rule Sanit payment 'within the rules'

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The Royal Thai Police (RTP) has confirmed that metropolitan police chief Sanit Mahathavorn is not violating police rules by holding an advisory role with a major alcohol conglomerate.

Pol Lt Gen Sanit has been receiving a monthly payment of 50,000 baht from Thai Beverage Plc as an adviser to the firm since 2015, according to his assets declared to the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC).

Police deputy spokesman Piyapan Pingmuang said Wednesday that based on the RTP's rules, police officers are not prohibited from holding an advisory role in a company. However, it is up to Pol Lt Gen Sanit himself to explain whether advising an alcohol beverage producer could be seen as a breach of ethics, Pol Maj Gen Piyapan said. This is his personal issue and he may have to decide what to do himself, the deputy spokesman added.

Pol Lt Gen Sanit's role with the country's biggest producer of alcoholic drinks was back in the spotlight after the Office of the Ombudsman on Tuesday resolved to summon Pol Lt Gen Sanit to explain the matter within seven days.

Raksagecha Chaechai, secretary-general of the Ombudsman's office, said his agency had written to the NACC to seek information about Pol Lt Gen Sanit's assets and liabilities declaration.

The NACC was asked to supply the information within 15 days after receiving the request, he said.
Mr Raksagecha insisted the Ombudsman would expedite efforts to rule on the case, adding the issue is urgent and draws public attention.
He also gave his assurance that the Ombudsman would consider the case thoroughly and give fairness to all sides.

The Ombudsman's move to investigate the case came after Srisuwan Janya, secretary-general of the Association for the Protection of the Constitution, lodged a petition with the agency, calling for a probe into the senior police officer's conduct last month. Mr Srisuwan accused Pol Lt Gen Sanit of breaching police ethics by taking on the advisory post in the company.

Pol Lt Gen Sanit, who is also a member of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), was also accused of breaching the ethics of political office-holders on the grounds that there is a conflict of interest in his duty as a lawmaker, as he may have to deal with legislation related to alcoholic beverages.

is a conflict of interest in his duty as a lawmaker, as he may have to deal with legislation related to alcoholic beverages.

Mr Srisuwan also called on Pol Lt Gen Sanit to step down as chief of the Metropolitan Police Bureau.

Meanwhile, Mana Nimitmongkol, secretary-general for the Anti-Corruption Organisation of Thailand (ACT) praised the Office of the Ombudsman's probe into the matter.

"It's completely unsuitable behaviour for a high-ranking state official. Moreover, a police officer is supposed to enforce the law. This is a conflict of interest," he said.

In mid-December last year, Worawit Sukboon, NACC deputy secretary-general, said Section 100 of the anti-graft law prohibits any prime minister, minister or local administration executive from being a contractual partner with private operators, but it mentions nothing about "state officials".
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by prcscct » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:58 am

Has anyone tried this yet? I really hope we have a winner this time, and something different. Pete :cheers:

New Federbräuenters the premium beer market with the first German Single Malt in Thailand

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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by Dannie Boy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:55 am

prcscct wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:58 am
Has anyone tried this yet? I really hope we have a winner this time, and something different. Pete :cheers:

New Federbräuenters the premium beer market with the first German Single Malt in Thailand

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/advertisement/life/43
One would imagine it will be a premium beer at a premium price, which may determine how successful it will be - many people buy based on price first. :cheers:

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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by m_right » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:27 am

I like beer Lao and bought the last case available at Macro yesterday. Does anyone know of another source?
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by buksida » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:28 pm

Dannie Boy wrote:
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One would imagine it will be a premium beer at a premium price, which may determine how successful it will be - many people buy based on price first. :cheers:
Had a bottle at the weekend, it is priced inline with Thai beers as it is brewed and bottled here so not subject to the 400% import tax.
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Re: The Beer Thread

Post by Chazz14 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:32 pm

The Mucky Duck pub off Soi 88 has both the Dark and lager Beer Lao varieties.
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