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Melton Mowbray Pork Pies

Post by HarryVardon » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:43 pm

During my youth I spent a couple of years living close to Melton Mowbray (Queniborough to be exact). During that time I became addicted to Melton Mowbray pork pies. They are now available all over England and there are also some very good copies. I have tried the pork pies from every pie shop in Hua Hin but none of them come even remotely close to a Melton Mowbray pie. The pastry is completely wrong, the jelly does not have the right texture and the pork doesn't taste quite right. Some of these pies are very good BUT they are not Melton Mowbray pies. Does anyone know if I can get a real one or a good copy in Hua Hin?

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by MLS » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:50 pm

I hear you HV, and sorry I can't recommend a place here. I ended up making my own in Hong Kong (until M&S started flying them in twice a week - joy!) and I'm going to have to start doing it again here. It's laborious but enormously satisfying, and the raw ingredients are ubiquitous and cheap: trotters for the aspic (yep, got to be loads); shoulder and belly for the filling; lard, flour etc. for the raised-crust pastry... If you're desperate and have time, give it a go. And now you've got me salivating and thinking about Googling how to make Branston pickle...

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Re: Melton Mowbray Pork Pies

Post by caller » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:19 pm

HarryVardon wrote:
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Some of these pies are very good BUT they are not Melton Mowbray pies. Does anyone know if I can get a real one or a good copy in Hua Hin?
TOPS supermarkets in Bangkok stock Dickinson & Morris Melton Mowbray pork pies as I stated in my post on 25th July. There is a TOPS in the new Robinsons just South of Petchaburi, but I have never been in there to see what they stock. I might stop there on my way back from Bkk late next week.

As for other pork pies. Well, my last one from HHH&B was pretty near damn perfect for me. Really top notch. Perfect pastry and really moist and succulent meat. Very tasty. I always eat mine with Colemans mustard.

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by MLS » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:54 pm

That looks very acceptable and I'd happily eat it right now but, being picky, I wouldn't say it qualifies as a MM - the pastry doesn't look dark, crunchy, crusty or slatey enough and it's not closely hugging a dense pork and aspic filling. Sorry, I know I sound like a complete arse and I'm being far too critical but that looks like some sort of shortcrust pastry rather than hot water crust, and the greasy white inner layer reminds me of biting into soggy pork pies at service stations on the M4.

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by Michaelaway » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:07 pm

What does slatey mean?

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by hhinner » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:28 pm

@caller - new Robinson / Tops in Phetchaburi - don't set your expectations too high.

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by Big Boy » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:31 pm

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Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:54 pm
That looks very acceptable and I'd happily eat it right now but, being picky, I wouldn't say it qualifies as a MM - the pastry doesn't look dark, crunchy, crusty or slatey enough and it's not closely hugging a dense pork and aspic filling. Sorry, I know I sound like a complete arse and I'm being far too critical but that looks like some sort of shortcrust pastry rather than hot water crust, and the greasy white inner layer reminds me of biting into soggy pork pies at service stations on the M4.
I would suggest trying one to find out for yourself. Particularly if you can time it right to get one fresh, as opposed to frozen (which are good anyway), they are superb.
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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by MLS » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:57 pm

I'm sure I'd like it but at the end of the day it looks nowhere near a Melton Mowbray, which is what HarryVardon's after.
Michaelaway - as you can tell. I can't articulate and probably used the wrong word when I said slate-y, but I meant that almost granular (gritty?) feel in the mouth that you get with really 'short' perfectly cooked MM pastry.
I'll stop now, and yes I willingly accept the arse award for fussiness and pretentiousness (but I do like my pies) 🙄

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by usual suspect » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:20 am

I'm looking to buy 20 pork pies for Xmas day snacks...But not gonna go to BKK or Pet'buri..What's the going rate for small P.P.s in HH & in your opinions where's the best outlet..? :cheers:

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Post by Big Boy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:16 am

Hua Hin Ham & Bacon's Pork Pies are excellent value at just 70 Baht each.
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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by HarryVardon » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:07 am

The pie shop in Soi 94 also has good pork pies (not MM) as well as a good selection of other pies, sausage rolls, scotch eggs, etc.

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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by caller » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:17 am

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Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:07 am
The pie shop in Soi 94 also has good pork pies (not MM) as well as a good selection of other pies, sausage rolls, scotch eggs, etc.
Good luck in getting a pork pie from there though!
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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by caller » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:32 am

MLS wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:54 pm
That looks very acceptable and I'd happily eat it right now but, being picky, I wouldn't say it qualifies as a MM - the pastry doesn't look dark, crunchy, crusty or slatey enough and it's not closely hugging a dense pork and aspic filling. Sorry, I know I sound like a complete arse and I'm being far too critical but that looks like some sort of shortcrust pastry rather than hot water crust, and the greasy white inner layer reminds me of biting into soggy pork pies at service stations on the M4.
Of course it doesn't qualify as a MM pie and nor does it pretend to. To qualify as a MM pie, a certain type of pork pie, the pie has to be of a certain style and originate within x distance of the town itself!

There are butchers all over the UK that make their own perfectly good pork pies and the owner of HHH&B is another of those. And I'm sorry too, but you do sound like a complete arse. I am pretty picky about pork pies and have sampled them, from local butchers and their like, the length and breadth of the UK and it was a very personal hit and miss exercise. I found some looked fantastic, had incredible texture and everything else you would want in a pie, but tasted of nothing. Others were variations on a theme that were all good in their own way. Some were dreamily perfect! I recall a place in Fowey years ago that made stunning pies and a farm shop in the village of Parkham in North Devon that were the best ever.

That pie above, however you might think it looks, was top notch, I knew it would be as soon as I cut it in two. It didn't last long, I can telly you that.
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Re: Pies in Hua Hin

Post by caller » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:39 am

hhinner wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:28 pm
@caller - new Robinson / Tops in Phetchaburi - don't set your expectations too high.
Thanks. I thought as much. I visit Bkk regularly and there is a TOPS near where I stay, but as I like to stock up on things not available for me in Hua Hin, I always pay a visit to the supermarket at Central Chit Lom, which is the Daddy of all TOPS markets (Central own TOPS).
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Post by hhinner » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:23 am

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hhinner wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:28 pm
@caller - new Robinson / Tops in Phetchaburi - don't set your expectations too high.
Thanks. I thought as much. I visit Bkk regularly and there is a TOPS near where I stay, but as I like to stock up on things not available for me in Hua Hin, I always pay a visit to the supermarket at Central Chit Lom, which is the Daddy of all TOPS markets (Central own TOPS).
Yeah, I like Tops at Robinson Sukhumvit 19. Central food hall is great, but with so much good stuff it's easy to seriously overspend in there. The new Tops in P'buri is barely Tesco standard.

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