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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by STEVE G » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm

PeteC wrote:
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Based on that article one would expect no change at your local bar for a bottle of beer which only increases 2.66Baht.
If would be good if we can get some feedback over the next weeks as to how much bars are increasing prices. A normal commercial practice is to "round up" so people could see a 5 or 10 baht increase per bottle? We'll see.....Pete :cheers:
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by PeteC » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:33 pm

STEVE G wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm
PeteC wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:36 pm
StevePIraq wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:29 pm
Based on that article one would expect no change at your local bar for a bottle of beer which only increases 2.66Baht.
If would be good if we can get some feedback over the next weeks as to how much bars are increasing prices. A normal commercial practice is to "round up" so people could see a 5 or 10 baht increase per bottle? We'll see.....Pete :cheers:
I'll be back out in a couple of weeks and will happily indulge in a little research!
:thumb: In the back of my head I'm afraid the gougers may be lurking behind some bars. High season approaching, unaware tourists...."let's put the price up XX Baht per bottle, all we have to say is TAX INCREASE...." Pete :cheers:
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Big Boy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:41 pm

Is there any statement on how much draught beer will increase? I can only drink Guinness, and that already requires a mortgage when I go out.
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Nereus » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:49 pm

The following Bangkok Post article lays it out a bit better than the Nation one:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... recent_box

Cigarettes hardest hit by new excise taxes

Not sure what "high priced beer" is, but it appears to be a decrease?
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Big Boy » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:20 am

Guys this is not a thread about Guinness, it is about tax increases.

:offtopic: please.

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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by STEVE G » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:25 pm

PeteC wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:33 pm
STEVE G wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm
PeteC wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:36 pm


If would be good if we can get some feedback over the next weeks as to how much bars are increasing prices. A normal commercial practice is to "round up" so people could see a 5 or 10 baht increase per bottle? We'll see.....Pete :cheers:
I'll be back out in a couple of weeks and will happily indulge in a little research!
:thumb: In the back of my head I'm afraid the gougers may be lurking behind some bars. High season approaching, unaware tourists...." Pete :cheers:
I'm not sure, when I was in town a couple of months a go, everyone was having" happy hours "and it was the cheapest drinking I've endured in Hua Hin for quite some time, in fact you can stay in happy hour mode from nine in the morning until ten at night if you have the stamina.

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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by HHTel » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Went to a couple of my local bar/restaurants today. One had her 'old stock' bottles marked so she knew which were old price. Both wholesellers had told them that 2.66 baht tax was on all bottles, large and small. With a bit extra for the increased VAT they rounded up an increase of 5 baht for all beers. Consequently, she made the new price from 75 baht for a large Chang to 80 baht passing on the increase of 5 baht. That's fair. However, I bet there are many bars which will add to the increase for their own profit. We'll see.

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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by buksida » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:48 am

New tax rates to earn extra 12 billion baht to state coffer
The Excise Department says the new tax rates effective today (Sept 16) will raise prices of unhealthy foods and drinks, while generating 12 billion baht more on taxes from them annually.

Director-general of the Excise Department Mr Somchai Poolsavasdi said the new tax rates will bring about 2% tax burden on business operators from the tax rates they previously paid.

This amounted to 12 billion baht more on tax revenues based on retail prices earned yearly by the department, he said.

But he assured that the new tax rates will meet international standards, be more transparent, basing less on consideration by tax officials, and boosting tax collection efficiency.

The new rates will affect sweetened drinks which were not taxed before such as green tea. It will have to pay 1.13-2.5 baht tax while canned coffee and fruit juices facing 1.35 baht and 6-54 satang respectively.

For soft drinks, energy drinks, sport drinks, canned beer, bottled beer, they all will have higher taxes.

Prices for soft drinks will be 13-50 satang higher; 32-90 satang higher for energetic drinks and mineral drinks; 50 satang for canned beer; 2.66 baht for bottled beer; 8-30 baht for local whiskies; and 3-26 baht for imported whiskies.

Imported wines priced less than 1,000 baht will see higher price of 110 baht more, while imported cigarettes priced less than 60 baht will be 4-15 baht higher per packet, while over 60 baht cigarettes will see 2-14 baht increase in prices.

The Excise Department insisted that officials will take legal action against manufacturers and importers who paid old tax rate for their goods but sell them at new price.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-ta ... te-coffer/
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by HHTel » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:13 am

A little late with that news aren't we Buksi. Having a 'senior moment'?

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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by buksida » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:12 am

Oops, yeah, my RSS feed is showing me old articles!
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Big Boy » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:50 am

I've just come back from Tesco, and all of their boxes of beer, soft drinks etc seem to have remained unchanged in price.
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by HHTel » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:13 pm

It was suggested that some retailers will absorb the increase on the more competitive brands. However, it's illegal to raise the price of old stock. I would imagine Tesco has a fair amount of stock to shift before new stock comes into play.

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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Big Boy » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:22 pm

So the likes of 7-11 were illegal :?

I actually agree with you by the way, but how many put their prices up on day 1, irrespective of whether or not it was old stock?
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by Pagey » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:23 pm

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Time to start buying those 10 liter boxes of wine from Tesco (Mont Clair) as seems the best deal around now. Beer is about to get expensive, especially if you are drinking out in town. Guess the brief visit tourist 2 week types won't care but foreign residents and the locals will.
I noticed on Monday in Makro they were selling 8 litre boxes of Mont Clair exclusive to Makro. 1,200 Baht I think.
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Re: Govt to increase alcohol tax again

Post by HHTel » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:01 pm

Big Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:22 pm
So the likes of 7-11 were illegal :?

I actually agree with you by the way, but how many put their prices up on day 1, irrespective of whether or not it was old stock?
In a lot of cases, the wholesalers have increased the prices from day 1. Bars and restaurants who don't hold large stocks (usually the case) have no option but to pass on the increase. Thereby the wholesalers are the ones breaking the law imo.

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