another briton murded this time samui

[jambo]

this makes it six britons in just six months

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 06,00.html

[Norseman]

Six Britons have been murdered in Thailand since August 2004 is what that article states, not in just 6 months.
Does anybody know more about this?

Another incident in Hua Hin.
I young guy from Finland was attacked early morning yesterday in a karaoke bar by 5 thais. He had to run for his life and escaped the mob.
This incident occurred at 6 am and the police did not know why the karaoke bar was still open at that time.
They said on tv that they will shut the bar down.

[tuktukmike]

Police did not know what is was doing open at that time?????????

Have i missed something.

Mike.

[Jankou]

Now I am a litlle bit curious that who was that finnish guy and why they attacked against him? And what karaoke bar it was?

[Norseman]

Cat Caraoke Bar.
The guy was some twenty years old and was with a farang lady in the bar.
Don't know how long time they stayed in the bar before he was jumped, but he told the police that they tried to kill him.

[Jankou]

Okeyna.. I was quite sure that it have to be Cat Karaoke. But I am a little bit surprised that 5 thais attack there against Farang? Usually Cat K. is full of farangs not so much thais... Maybe those guys wanted to have problems before they even saw this farang. ? Who knows? I hope that everything okeyna with Cat K. owner and employees... ??

[dr dave soul monsta]

It is not anisolated incedent in that area where cat kareoke and jeaw bar there are a gorup of Thai youths who more than occasionaly flex their numbers not muscle as they are all weedy little cowards not quite the words i wanted to use but i have to set an example on here,,, roumors have it that they all abode behind soi selakarn and used hang about infront of the new massage place on the corner and they get away with these deeds as some of their parents are alleged to members of the local consatbulary as for the police saying they didnt know why the kareoke was open maybe due to the fact they get 5K PER MONTH OFF each of the bars in that area "FACT"

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[Farang]

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A Finn I know was present at the carnage. He said the brat got what he was asking for.
It be a rare occurrence a group of Thais would attack a falang with no provocation.
Not that it has happened, of course.
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[buksida]

The murder story is very sad but shouldnt be used to tarnish an entire country. How many young women are murdered in England every month?

As for the beating, its news to me but I have seen a number of incidents involving a group of Thais and a single opponent (be it local or western). They fight like pack animals, not people, though as said above its rarely without provocation of some description.

[Jaime]

The murder story is very sad but shouldnt be used to tarnish an entire country. How many young women are murdered in England every month?

Like it or not, the succession of murders of UK tourists in Thailand is tarnishing the entire country. As I write I am sat in an office in Cardiff, where the latest victim, Katherine Horton, came from. She was a schoolfriend of a colleague's daughter. Talk this morning has been of nothing else. News coverage has not been sensationalised here either - people are able to form their own opinions after so many murders of tourists in such a short space of time. People are not reassured by the tired old line that Thailand is one of the safest places to travel, especially for single women. This old chestnut is in any event now disputed by the Foreign & Commonwealth Office advice which states the following:

"We continue to receive reports of sexual assault on foreign women and men. Female travellers in particular should maintain a high state of personal awareness during their time in Thailand."

As far as potential tourists are concerned, comparison with domestic UK crime statistics is an irrelevance. Obviously there will be more killings of Brits here because that is where most of us live! The issue is this; over the last couple of years Thailand has gained a reputation as a place where people go for a holiday and come back in a box. Not only that, people note that this doesn't seem to be the same for other countries. Over the same period British tourists do not seem to be getting murdered in such numbers in European resorts, where they go in far greater numbers.

Add to this the way the crimes are handled by the Thai authorities. It has been reported that the majority of crimes in Thailand are solved by 'confessions.' Hardly evidence of great detective work there - and I am sure I won't find too many dissenting responses to that comment. I have no doubt that Katherine's family will not be feeling confident that her killer will be brought to justice when the killer of Kirsty Jones, another young Welsh victim, is still at large after five years.

It is easy to let your guard down in Thailand - I am sure most users of this forum have done so at some point - and to be fair, not for nothing is Thailand known as the Land of Smiles. However, Thailand is much more complex than that and it seems that the naivety of young, adventurous tourists leaves them especially vulnerable to being led into a false sense of security - perhaps with tragic consequences. Those with kids in their late teens and early twenties will certainly think twice before subsidising a gap year trip that takes in Thailand - that is clear from the conversations I have had over the last couple of days

As a mainstream tourist destination at least, Thailands image is certainly tarnished by these events, and frankly, it should be. The question is, what can be done about it?

[caller]

But its not just the naivety of the young.

The guy from Sunderland was in his fifties, if the murder of the dane did happen in Ch-am, he was settled there and running a business, the Brit killed in Bangkok, the couple killed by the Police Officer last year.........

And these are just the reported ones - well almost.

Its a sad reflection of the Country, that the suspicion has to be that the authorities will only do something once the threat to tourism becomes too great.

The murder of Katherine Horton was front page news in most of this mornings UK press and the London Standard and as I type, I'm listening to it on BBC TV news. Most reports stated that the Police initially tried to cover up the murder because of the effect on tourism, true or not.

Now I'm cynical enough, with experience, and however hurtful that this may seem, to believe that this story only got so much coverage because otherwise it was a quiet news day, it was a female and she was quoted as saying before she left, that going to Thailand was no more of a risk than crossing the road. Certainly most of the other recent incidents attracted little or no coverage.

If they had - and I wonder whether some investigative journalists may now pick up on this - I wonder what the effect will be?

It won't afffect the die-hards, but may sway those thinking of visiting?

I think the authorities in LOS have a lot of soul-searching to do.

[caller]

From the BBC news website, where the Thai Police are quoted as confirming she was murdered:

South Wales Police Detective Superintendent Paul Kemp said: "Thai police are very experienced and very capable of dealing with this sort of incident. But we will liaise closely.

"We have a responsibility in the UK, if a citizen of the UK dies as a result of murder, obviously we have responsibility through the coroner to inquire into the circumstances."

[Jaime]

Very diplomatic! Of course, South Wales Police already has close experience of the 'expertise' of their Thai counterparts as a result of the bungled investigation into the murder of Kirsty Jones in Chiang Mai.

[dr dave soul monsta]

Jamie Wrote

As a mainstream tourist destination at least, Thailands image is certainly tarnished by these events, and frankly, it should be. The question is, what can be done about it?

Not a lot Jamie until the corruption in the ranks of the Thai police and government offices is stamped out, apart from 100% stop universaly by the tourism industry to Thailand.. The Thai authorities have a duty to ensure the tourism industry is safe, at present they are only interested in creaming of the cash for the back pocket bribes from the bar owners, hotels and guest houses for illegal late opening etc .there are still many unanswered questions regarding many deaths in Thailand over recent years or even months. it would seem like it is too much trouble to get the true answers to them and too much paper work for the authorities to be bothered with until out side pressure is applied .our sympathy and concerns go out to the families of these victims of not only the actual murder or death but the mai pen rai attitude of the Thai authorities regarding doing their jobs and not sitting about swearing blind it was an accident when it clearly isn’t

[tuktukmike]

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