Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by Big Boy » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:02 pm

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The military government has defended its decision to buy a 13.5-billion-baht Chinese submarine, saying it acted transparently and that the vessel is not only cheaper than other foreign competitors but comes with free missiles.
I wasn't expecting that, but reading the propaganda, these missiles are capable of taking out a vessel 120Km away, which is quite impressive in my book - if they work.
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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by Nereus » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:19 pm

One has to ask if this is connected?
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Arms factory deal edges closer

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/securit ... ges-closer

A plan to build a production and maintenance facility for Chinese weapons in Thailand is expected to be finalised by July, according to Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwon.

First revealed to the public late last year after Gen Prawit's trip to Beijing, the plan, which will also make Thailand an armament technology transfer hub, has been gathering momentum with talks between officials from both countries making progress.

By July, "approval should be sought to build a maintenance facility", defence ministry spokesman Gen Kongcheep Tantrawanit quoted Gen Prawit as saying. He was speaking after the deputy prime minister chaired a Defence Council meeting Monday.

The idea to build the facility comes amid closer Thai and Chinese military ties since the coup toppled the Yingluck Shinawatra administration in 2014. The coup drew criticism from the US but China was more understanding.

In addition to plans to buy tanks and submarines from China, the government proposed the maintenance facility as a joint military development. The proposal was supported by Chinese Defence Minister Chang Wanquan.

A joint panel has been set up to oversee the plan.

It aims to provide a maintenance depot for Chinese weapons sold to Thailand as well as build spare parts for armoured vehicles.

Authorities also want the centre to produce drones and marine aircraft.

In the long term, it will play a major role in passing on knowledge and the latest technology associated with Chinese armaments used in Thailand and Southeast Asia to Thai military personnel.

Potential sites for the facility include the Army Ordnance Department in Nakhon Ratchasima, as well as other sites in Chon Buri and Nakhon Sawan.

During Monday's meeting, Gen Prawit also touched on a range of security issues from weapons acquisition to the government's efforts to forge national reconciliation.

It is true the government is considering seeking military deals with China, but this does not mean it favours certain countries, Maj Gen Kongcheep quoted Gen Prawit as saying.

Officials base their decisions on needs and what is appropriate, Maj Gen Kongcheep said.

Thailand needs "strategic weapons", which are also being used by neighbouring countries to protect maritime interests and provide "military muscle to back up negotiations", he quoted Gen Prawit as saying during the meeting.

Gen Prawit also said the government will press ahead with efforts to heal 10 years of social divisions between pro- and anti-Thaksin groups, which were the precursor to the 2014 coup.

National reconciliation will pave the way for national reform under the government's 20-year national strategy, according to Gen Prawit.

Meanwhile, Gen Prawit played down criticism that five armed force leaders will sit on a committee overseeing national strategy. "I don't see any problem," he said, saying it would provide another channel to encourage talks between military and civilians to reach a better understanding of each other's positions on various issues.
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National reconciliation will pave the way for national reform under the government's 20-year national strategy, according to Gen Prawit.
How is that a "reconciliation" government has a 20 year strategy plan?
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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by handdrummer » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:24 pm

it's good to know that Thailand will now be a part of the world-wide arms proliferation community. if you want to retire wealthy invest in armaments and war materiel and maybe you'll live long enough to enjoy your profits if we all don't go up in smoke. "Straight ahead, damn the torpedoes.". and remember, shboom, shboom, life is just a movie. maybe it's jus me but there's something about tanks in a jungle that just doesn't seem to fit. but hey, what do I know I'm just a dumb farang.

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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by Name Taken » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:44 pm

handdrummer wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:24 pm
it's good to know that Thailand will now be a part of the world-wide arms proliferation community. if you want to retire wealthy invest in armaments and war materiel and maybe you'll live long enough to enjoy your profits if we all don't go up in smoke. "Straight ahead, damn the torpedoes.". and remember, shboom, shboom, life is just a movie. maybe it's jus me but there's something about tanks in a jungle that just doesn't seem to fit. but hey, what do I know I'm just a dumb farang.
Yes, maybe Thailand will buy some Nuclear Weapons from China after they take delivery of their submarines.

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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by handdrummer » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:40 am

Name Taken wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:44 pm
handdrummer wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:24 pm
it's good to know that Thailand will now be a part of the world-wide arms proliferation community. if you want to retire wealthy invest in armaments and war materiel and maybe you'll live long enough to enjoy your profits if we all don't go up in smoke. "Straight ahead, damn the torpedoes.". and remember, shboom, shboom, life is just a movie. maybe it's jus me but there's something about tanks in a jungle that just doesn't seem to fit. but hey, what do I know I'm just a dumb farang.
Yes, maybe Thailand will buy some Nuclear Weapons from China after they take delivery of their submarines.
if they can't afford nuclear weapons they could substitute durians, same effect.

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Re: Thai Navy to buy three Chinese submarines

Post by STEVE G » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:16 pm

Some serious words from the Bangkok Post:

Kill sub deal, save nation
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1240010

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