Tough action against Hua Hin beach encroachers/demolition of pier restaurants

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Re: Tough action against Hua Hin beach encroachers

Post by Strat1964 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:41 am

centermid7 wrote:If I were given the choice of what we have in the business/waterfront area of HH versus what they have in Prachuab Kiri Khan I would take PKK every time.

Strat1964 has pointed out that the land was "owned" by the HH City Amphoe and given to the current "owners" but I don't think that land was really owned by HHC in the first place and thus was not theirs to give to anyone else.
Centermid7, I know for sure that the land is owned by Hua Hin City.

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Post by centermid7 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:15 am

^ You have seen and read all the land grants and transfer papers that were done all those years ago? All done in Thai language as well? Failing that I don't think you really "know" for sure.

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Post by StevePIraq » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:13 pm

I would think Strat1964 knows far more bout this than anyone else and really appreciate your input. It would be really appreciated if you could continue to give first hand updates rather than we having to glean from news articles.
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Post by NOKYAI » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:01 pm

Wasn't there a meeting today ....... Anyone got any feedback?
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Post by Strat1964 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:24 pm

centermid7 wrote:^ You have seen and read all the land grants and transfer papers that were done all those years ago? All done in Thai language as well? Failing that I don't think you really "know" for sure.

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As a business operator, I had to come across those documents at least for the property I manage. I had also many meetings and discussions with officials from Hua Hin about this.

Thai language is not such a problem for me. But it seems you know more, so please give us some enlightment about
your 'thinking' ?

Let's stay objective and not let emotions drive this debate. Thanks.

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Post by centermid7 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:10 am

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Post by STEVE G » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:48 am

Strat1964 wrote:
centermid7 wrote:^ You have seen and read all the land grants and transfer papers that were done all those years ago? All done in Thai language as well? Failing that I don't think you really "know" for sure.

Cheers!
As a business operator, I had to come across those documents at least for the property I manage. I had also many meetings and discussions with officials from Hua Hin about this.

Thai language is not such a problem for me. But it seems you know more, so please give us some enlightment about
your 'thinking' ?

Let's stay objective and not let emotions drive this debate. Thanks.
If the local council legally owns the land and the business owners have documents to be there, what or who is the subject of these arrest warrants that keep getting reported in the press?

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Post by HHTel » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:15 am

But surely, 'the land' and 'the beach' are two different things.

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Post by buksida » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:55 pm

Hua Hin to dismantle old communities encroached on beach
Hua Hin local residents and traders who were accused of public land encroachment by building guesthouses and homes and food vendors have called for sympathy from the authorities following imminent movement by the local administration to enforce the law strictly to remove all the property encroached on public land.

The call was made as they met the deputy governor of Prachuab Khiri Khan Mr Theeraphan Nantakij today to negotiate for the suspension of the action.

At the meeting the deputy explained them the need to enforce the law and the procedure the encroachers needed to follow and abide by.

However the owners of the 40 encroached properties asked for sympathy saying they have been there over a decade.

They also claimed that their ancestors have pioneered to develop the area.

Earlier local administration ordered the dismantling of the structures on the roadside of Naresdamri Road, from the Fishing Pier to Chaomae Tabtim Shrine because they have encroached the public beach.

But they said the area was the old community, citing some old wooden homes which now have become Hua Hin’s legend.

The wooden homes were praised as the identity of Hua Hin town which deserved to be conserved under project in 2012 to inherit Hua Hin old homes, buildings and townscape, citing Home No 7 was the good example.

One local resident said “It has history and valuable background that is deserved to conserve. Here is one of the charms of Hua Hin tourism. I have spoken or talked with many foreigners and many of them said they were sad that these structures will be dismantled.”

They also cited history saying since King Rama III, their ancestors have sailed the ships to develop and settle in this area. There was no road cut through the land so that the area between the eastern and western sides of Naresdamri Road was the same plot of land.

But they claimed the authorities later have requested to build the road and the residents have agreed with hope that the road would bring the development to the community.

They also said in the past, residents here were fishermen and the area was used to dry their fishing net and squids.

When the resources in the sea have reduced and tourism business has gradually boomed, guesthouses and homes as well as food stalls were build to cater the need of tourists.

Local residents said they were all only small operators not the capitalists or influential people.

They also voiced concern that the plan to dismantle the structures of the original community was aimed to revive the project that could benefit some certain groups.

There was a private company that surveyed the area for the project to improve the landscape and to utilize the area next to the beach, they claimed.

“We would like to ask for sympathy. Our ancestors have pioneered to develop the area. This area should be conserved because it is the symbol of Hua Hin tourism. It is also the village by the sea…every country want to conserve the old thing…this town is the only place that want to take this land to develop,” one sad owner complained.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/hua-hi ... hed-beach/
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Re: Tough action against Hua Hin beach encroachers

Post by REEM » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:18 pm

We would like to ask for sympathy.
Cry me a river and pass the kleenex.

What Hua Hin needs is a beachfront promenade, like every other decent seaside resort in the world.

What it doesnt need is illegally built restaurants serving up unbelievably overpriced and frankly second rate seafood to naive tourists, both Thai and foreign, who think they are getting the real deal.

The nonsensical wafflings about preserving some imagined heritage are but the ramblings of the desperate.

Sadly, the Thais seem incapable of preserving their past due to their insatiable appetite for redevelopment in the mistaken belief that modernisation is the only route to profit.

The wooden houses that line the lanes in that area could easily be made into an attractive heritage area if planning laws were made and enforced that prevent the owners demolishing and replacing them with hideous prefabricated eggboxes. Banning the ugly full height advertising hoardings that hide the architectural detail of the wooden houses from view should be implemented immediately if heritage preservation was of any concern.

But we all know how things work and we can all look forward to the continued concretisation of what is the only remaining part of Hua Hin that could successfully be reverted to an attractive seafront "village" with a promenade that would, I have no doubt, very soon become be the focal point of the town.

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Post by HHTel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:02 am

Pattaya
Jomtien
Puktien
Cha-am
Pranburi to Dolphin Bay
Prachuab
and more

All the above have an open beach so why not Hua Hin? Why should it be so different?

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Post by Crafack » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:06 am

HHTel wrote:
All the above have an open beach so why not Hua Hin? Why should it be so different?
Why, for God's sake should it be like all the other locations mentioned?

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Post by Big Boy » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:28 am

An unexpected reaction by the Tourism of Thailand (Prachuap) this morning posting several photos of the piers/buildings, stating their historical significance. Clearly the authorities aren't singing off the same hymn sheet.
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Post by caller » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:48 am

REEM wrote:What Hua Hin needs is a beachfront promenade, like every other decent seaside resort in the world.

What it doesnt need is illegally built restaurants serving up unbelievably overpriced and frankly second rate seafood to naive tourists, both Thai and foreign, who think they are getting the real deal.
That's a bit of an arrogant and pompous post, isn't it!

Why does it need to be like everywhere else? If they get rid of the current seafront then expect huge changes, mainly the arrival of bland and overpriced resorts and hotels along that stretch and yeah, for sure, it will be like everywhere else and the character of the place will have disappeared forever.

And I like the food and ambience of the piers, so we disagree there as well.
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Post by Kraka's Dad » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:13 pm

I agree with Caller. I too have enjoyed the food and the ambience there for the last 15 years and hope to do so for many years to come.
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