Fingerprints to be required for all mobile phone users

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Fingerprints to be required for all mobile phone users

Post by StevePIraq » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:25 am

Get ready for Big Brother.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/adv ... hone-users

Starting in February, you will be fingerprinted when you buy both pre-paid and post-paid SIM cards for your mobile phone.
The idea behind the system is to use SIM cards as a sort of personal ID.
The fingerprint of the person who has the SIM card in their phone should match the fingerprint of the SIM card in the government database.
Every mobile phone owner's fingerprint will be stored in a national database maintained by the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) ,the telecommunications regulator.
No indication yet has been given on whether other government agencies will have access to this database or on measures to protect privacy.
EXISTING SIM CARD OWNERS URGED TO PARTICIPATE
People who already own SIM cards will only be fingerprinted voluntarily but they are being urged to participate:
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Post by aragon » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:32 am

StevePIraq wrote:EXISTING SIM CARD OWNERS URGED TO PARTICIPATE
They're having a :lach: no pharking way, thank you very much.
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Post by RCer » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:33 am

Do you work for NBC, CNN, Fox, or BBC? You should. :P
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Post by StevePIraq » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:36 am

The article states "Fingerprints to be required for all mobile phone users" and to be sure it won't be long before they make it compulsory for ALL.
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Post by Big Boy » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:23 pm

Is this really such a big deal? Sounds more like job creation to me.

All Thais are already on a national fingerprint database; as are all Farangs with a Thai ID card. That just leaves a very small % of the population - the Expats without an ID Card. If they've got something to hide, they'll just delegate it to their wives or girlfriends.

Seems a pointless exercise to me.

Then there's scenario my son has. He has 2 phones for business use - they are passed from user to user.
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Post by hhinner » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:38 pm

Isn't the idea that the fingerprints be used for secure phone banking? In which case it's pointless for those without fingerprint enabled phones. Also the idea of a non-certified application developed at a university being secure enough is laughable. I think the much touted and delayed PromptPay system is currently undergoing redesign having been found wanting as a secure banking system.

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Post by StevePIraq » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:45 pm

To me it is no problem to have my prints taken they are on record in so many places it is irrelevant. I am surprised it is not compulsory when applying for a visa.
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Post by crazy88 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:36 pm

Well if they want my fingerprint instead of me carrying around passport, work permit, tabien baan, ID card of my wife, driving licence, loads of other signed bits of paper double crossed and stamped then I am all for it. Put your finger here sir; Job done. Retinal scans would be better though as an eyeball is not as easy to disguise as a severed finger.

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Post by Bluesky » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:13 pm

Big Boy wrote:Is this really such a big deal? Sounds more like job creation to me.

All Thais are already on a national fingerprint database; as are all Farangs with a Thai ID card. That just leaves a very small % of the population - the Expats without an ID Card. If they've got something to hide, they'll just delegate it to their wives or girlfriends.

Seems a pointless exercise to me.

Then there's scenario my son has. He has 2 phones for business use - they are passed from user to user.
It is certainly one way to tether the identity of the registered user to the SIM. if the authorities wish to locate the operator/registered user of the device. They will be able to do so fairly quickly through the CMTS if it is active anywhere in country. As Big Boy mentioned their certainly could be some issues where multiple users of the handset are concerned. It will be interesting to see how they will deal with handsets in the country operating on foreign SIMs with international roaming activated.

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Post by Spitfire » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:33 pm

Well...I certainly won't be taking part in this one.

Like the bit about a secure data base.....that's like them saying 'We'll keep your condom safe for you in the whore house.'
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Post by Deep Blue » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:01 am

They're going for total lock down of the country, - well as long as they don't execute Americans I'll roll with that. LOL

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Post by RCer » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:08 am

Just curious, how many here have never had their fingerprints taken for anything?

How many here that have had their fingerprints taken actually believe those prints are not in some massive database someplace?

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Post by HHTel » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:19 am

I don't recall ever having my prints taken for anything ever!

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Post by Nereus » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:54 am

RCer wrote:Just curious, how many here have never had their fingerprints taken for anything?
How many here that have had their fingerprints taken actually believe those prints are not in some massive database someplace?
Anybody that has ever worked in the Middle East will have their fingerprints recorded in numerous places.
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Re: Fingerprints to be required for all mobile phone users

Post by PeteC » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:15 am

Anyone who has ever been in the military in any country should have had them taken, as well as anyone with a security clearance of any level. In the 1970's millions of kids in the US had their prints taken by their parents (via the local police station) as a tracking method in case of abduction. A half century ago that was the level of technology in place. In addition I think every baby born for the last 100 years + - has had footprints taken at birth by the hospital. Pete :cheers:
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