Hollygolightly wrote;
What I don't get - and it drives me mad - is seeing farang guys in restaurants with their friends and Thai girlfriend and the poor girl is sat there, obviously bored, doesn't speak a word all night cos she can't join in the conversation;
Hi Holly, I have completely the opposite problem, my partner always drags me into places where the staff are from the same area as her. They then speak all night in there regional dialect, which is more Cambodian than Thai, while I sit there reading the Bangkok Post and being completely ignored!
I’m not complaining, I have a very good relationship with my girlfriend, I just wanted to point out that these things are not all one sided.
Relationship choices for farang women in LOS
When I lived in Hua Hin there were no farang women.
When I was thinking of returning to Thailand I posted on another forum as to the amount of farang women living there and was pretty much told by all not to bother and why was I even asking.
I did used to feel as a single farang male, shunned by farang women as I liked to spend time in the bars (as much as I like to go down the pub in England). Even though I wasnt particularily interested in the bargirls, I was guilty by association.
Funnily enough I have found the women I met in Thailand far more preferable than the ones I meet at home as the ladies around my age at home, mostly are the desperate to get married, have babies before its too late,nestbuilder types where as the women you meet abroad still have more of the world they want to discover.
I guess I'm trying to say is its difficult for the few farang men who prefer farang women too.
When I was thinking of returning to Thailand I posted on another forum as to the amount of farang women living there and was pretty much told by all not to bother and why was I even asking.
I did used to feel as a single farang male, shunned by farang women as I liked to spend time in the bars (as much as I like to go down the pub in England). Even though I wasnt particularily interested in the bargirls, I was guilty by association.
Funnily enough I have found the women I met in Thailand far more preferable than the ones I meet at home as the ladies around my age at home, mostly are the desperate to get married, have babies before its too late,nestbuilder types where as the women you meet abroad still have more of the world they want to discover.
I guess I'm trying to say is its difficult for the few farang men who prefer farang women too.
Okay, to answer the original question - I'm looking for a meaningful, perferably long-lasting relationship with a man, regardless of his nationality. Eventhough I'm pretty young (20-something), I find one-night stands a waste of time. I've never bothered having any and I seriously doubt I ever will.
However, if I have to be brutally honest I do slightly prefer foreign men over Thai men. Why? 'Cause I find that most Thai men aren't very attractive looks-wise. I'm NOT saying that all Thai men are like that. I've seen a few lookers here and there but overall, I'm not that impressed.
Now, I know that looks aren't everything. A great personality does much more for me than a pretty face. But there has to be some physical attraction as well.
However, if I have to be brutally honest I do slightly prefer foreign men over Thai men. Why? 'Cause I find that most Thai men aren't very attractive looks-wise. I'm NOT saying that all Thai men are like that. I've seen a few lookers here and there but overall, I'm not that impressed.
Now, I know that looks aren't everything. A great personality does much more for me than a pretty face. But there has to be some physical attraction as well.
It's a small world after all...
What I don't get - and it drives me mad - is seeing farang guys in restaurants with their friends and Thai girlfriend and the poor girl is sat there, obviously bored, doesn't speak a word all night cos she can't join in the conversation; and if the man even acknowledges her at all, he speaks in a strange abbreviated English that isn't going to help her language skills any.
Whole heartedly agree. Having been with my Thai wife now for 4 years, I refuse to 'park' her while I chat to a bunch of lads. She does speak English however, and now and again she joins in and upstages me!!!! Then I get annoyed and a titch bit jealous . We do, however, have an agreement. If I want a night out with the lads I go out alone and she will stay at home. If by chance I meet up with some lads when we are out together, then she will disappear off to meet her friends or aquaintences, after all half of HH is Isan and a lot of them come from the same village or maybe even the same family. Called respect I think!!!
The downside of the last comment is that if you are 'prowler' you mind end up with the wife's relative!!!!
However, this is also a cultural thing. When I'm north east it is expected for the men and women to seperate and that goes for eating too. Seems strange at first but both genders enjoy it. Women can talk women things and men can talk about they are going to change the world.
Neverless, to be 'wallpapered' whilst your boyfriend drinks himself silly with the lads is unacceptable to me. Hey! I was once 'wallpapered' in the
uk. I accidentally went into the pub and it was my first wifes hen party. I just sat at the bar sipping a pint and watching them all get legless!! They totally ignored me
On the Ferang lady front, I know many Thai men who have had Ferang girlfriends. Albiet short term though
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Thai women in conversations.
Yes, it can be hard to have a conversation without knowing the language. body language and facial expressions can only go so far. I think maybe I will bring a translator with me on my next date. sometimes the internet and e mails can be usefull, as some girls can write a lot better than they can speak. I agree with miss go lightly when I see guys having a conversation with each other and the girls sit around like pet dogs . This happened to me once and I started referring to the girl in the third person. like she was not even there. They seemed very attuned to how my conversation was going with the other person however. Have you ever seen the movie "Breakfast at Tiffanys" ? I think a farang woman would have a hard time finding a farang guy out here. Hua Hin seems to be the place for the older farang guy, who has been in Thailand a long time. If I were a farang woman looking for a farang guy, I would make the move to Chaing Mai. There seems to be a lot of younger, hippie types out there.
Ahem.
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Sultry, not meaning to offend, but your average farang is been perceived in this country either as a short-to-medium stay person on a holiday centered on a high percentage of self-gratification, backpacking on a shoestring, or a person relocating from the country of origin for reasons unknown.
For a long-stay person like myself, these relative newcomers are easy to spot; it's even easier for the Thais. Outside of the obvious mongers (and I'm no moralist - if that is what make them happy, I say go for it), those relocating here are a bit of a question mark, so most (include myself) keep them at arm's length until they assimilate or are at least known. Being fairly new to the country, I'd assume you are faced with many similar unknowns.
This is probably the crux of your dilemma.
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Sultry, not meaning to offend, but your average farang is been perceived in this country either as a short-to-medium stay person on a holiday centered on a high percentage of self-gratification, backpacking on a shoestring, or a person relocating from the country of origin for reasons unknown.
For a long-stay person like myself, these relative newcomers are easy to spot; it's even easier for the Thais. Outside of the obvious mongers (and I'm no moralist - if that is what make them happy, I say go for it), those relocating here are a bit of a question mark, so most (include myself) keep them at arm's length until they assimilate or are at least known. Being fairly new to the country, I'd assume you are faced with many similar unknowns.
This is probably the crux of your dilemma.
To echo JW's sentiments, I think you'll find those people who've travelled a bit are more open and accepting, not just the Thais. And you'll know when the right one comes along, I met my wife when I was in my early thirties and she was in her late twenties. I wasn't even looking.JW wrote:I agree with fremdulo on this one, but i have met one or 2 thai girls who have seen other countries and cultures and are good conversation. I guess when the right person comes along you know.
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