Venues will now need licence for playing darts

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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by Bamboo Grove » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:28 pm

To be on the safe side, better get the required permits.

Officials Swoop in to Seize Unregistered Dartboards

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter -
March 13, 2018 3:16 pm

BANGKOK — The national darts association said pubs and sport bars that wish to offer the sport must register their equipment lest they be confiscated by local authorities.

The warning came amid complaints from establishment owners in Pattaya that they are being targeted by officials demanding dart permits. Thailand Dart Association chairman Vichai Govindani said the crackdown is supported by a 83-year-old law that lists darts, bingo and numerous other sports as gambling.

“It has always been illegal,” Vichai said. “If you play at home, it’s not illegal. But if you play at a commercial venue, it’s considered part of business, and it might be associated with gambling. You need a permit for it, like snooker and pool and bingo.”

Online reports in the past month have detailed accounts of local officials raiding pubs catering to foreigners in the resort town of Pattaya and asking to see their permits. Owners who fail to show a relevant license have had their equipment seized.

Vichai said the law is enforced not by police but municipal officials.

Asked why the authorities are suddenly getting tough on a ubiquitous and seemingly benign sport such as darts, Vichai said it’s one of those crackdowns that comes in cycles.

“In the past there was crackdown, too, then it disappeared for some time,” Vichai, who has been playing darts for more than 30 years, said in an interview. “Now it’s back. But it’s good. At least it might make people interested in the sport.”

Chonburi Gov. Pakarathon Tienchai said he has no information about specific raids, but maintained that officials are required by law to crack down on any act of potential gambling.

“If they play for fun, it’s not a problem. But if it could be gambling, we have to take action,” Pakarathon said. “Officials have to see if there’s any gambling involved.”

A 1935 law lists dozens of sports and games as gambling, including darts, bingo, lottery, billiards and mahjong. Those who wish to play or organize matches require permission from the state under the pre-WWII legislation.

Vichai said his association can issue the necessary permits free of charge to any establishment that requests one from his association.

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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by HHTel » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:49 pm

You need a permit for it, like snooker and pool and bingo.
Anyone have a pool licence??
gambling, including darts, bingo, lottery, billiards and mahjong.
Hmmm.
Vichai said his association can issue the necessary permits free of charge
So what's the Darts Association got to do with law enforcement??

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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by oakdale160 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:54 pm

I have seen Thai people playing darts in farang-targeted bars, do they have dart boards in the all-thai bars

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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by Bamboo Grove » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:13 pm

So what's the Darts Association got to do with law enforcement??
As Vichai said, the association can get the correct permissions. Obviously you might be able to get them from the police but it might be easier via Vichai. I know him personally and he is a darts man through and through.

The pool licences must surely follow soon.
I have seen Thai people playing darts in farang-targeted bars, do they have dart boards in the all-thai bars
During my darts playing years in Bangkok 1994-2004-5, I can only recall two or three all-thai bar venues with dart boards. They didn't last long as they were only aimed for playing darts so there was not much income, unlike the western run bars, which usually also have pool tables, food and quite serious beer drinking.
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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by GroveHillWanderer » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:15 pm

I think the khaosodenglish article mischaracterizes the law slightly (something they seem to have a habit of doing, based on various articles I have read). I alluded to this in an earlier post but the law as I read it, does not say that the activities themselves are classified as gambling. What it does say is that the activities in its List B (including darts, pool etc) require either a licence or a ministerial regulation saying a licence is not required, whenever the organizer stands to gain, either directly or indirectly, or if there is gambling or prizes involved.

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Re: Venues will now need licence for playing darts

Post by oakdale160 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:24 am

OK guys, have a game of darts but none of that---"loser buys the next round" thats gambling.

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