Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

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Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

Post by 404cameljockey » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:32 am

I'm asking a question of forum users, is this petition worthy of support? I'm not asking if it will have any effect.

It's to the Minister of Education asking education in schools in city areas (not rural) to try to prevent under-aged children from riding motorbikes and driving cars to school. It seems worth signing.

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Post by handdrummer » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:12 am

Unless the police enforce it we're just pissing into the wind.

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Post by 404cameljockey » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:59 pm

I'm asking forum users if they consider it's worth raising a voice, whether if it has any direct/immediate effect or not.

If so then it's worth sharing the petition.

Pissing into the wind can have negative impact. I don't think this does.

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Post by Big Boy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:06 pm

Obviously the subject is one that concerns most of us, and I guess most of us see it daily regarding bikes. As for pick-ups, I guess some of the crazy driving could be down to kids, but I don't see the driver through the tinted glass.
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Post by oakdale160 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:11 pm

This is all about the safety of Thai children so obviously the police will raise themselves from their usual indifference to the traffic laws and rigorously enforce this one---- LOL< LOL< LOL< LOL< LOL

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Post by StevePIraq » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:02 pm

For one it is not schools responsibility to teach children to obey the law, this is parents responsibly.

While the petition is worthy it is far to rambling and unfocused to get anyone's attention
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Post by migrant » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:27 pm

The schools should also do their bit. Many times I see the teachers, no helmets, meet these kids driving bikes, also no helmets
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Post by StevePIraq » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:30 pm

But that is because there is no respect for law at all in Thailand. Parents only raise their children to bow down, say wai to photographs and statues and so on.

Could the petition work, possibly if it was wrote better, however I think it is highly unlikely to get anywhere.
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Re: Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:36 am

StevePIraq wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:30 pm
But that is because there is no respect for law at all in Thailand. Parents only raise their children to bow down, say wai to photographs and statues and so on.

Could the petition work, possibly if it was wrote better, however I think it is highly unlikely to get anywhere.
Good point, thanks. I think the writer doesn't have English as a first language, and also has not given the petition any structure. I signed anyway, good luck to him.

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Post by Takiap » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:22 am

I agree that schools should try to do more, but I also realize that they would for the most part be fighting a losing battle unless parents were willing to actually show some proof that the do have genuine love for their kids.

How can any parent honestly say they love their children, and yet they actually encourage their kids to engage in potentially deadly behavior. A 12 or 13 year old child, in the overwhelming majority of cases, simply isn't mentally mature enough to be riding motorbikes or cars on the road, and particularly in a place like Thailand where they know that they can do virtually anything they want.

If you are allowing an underage kids to ride around on a motorbike or in a car, then I am sorry, but you have a strange way of demonstrating your love, or alternatively, they could possibly be something wrong with your wiring.

When I was growing up, if an underage or unlicensed kid got caught on the roads, the law provided two options. Either the parents would take the fall by confessing that they had handed over the keys, or the child would be charged for the theft of a motorbike or motor vehicle.

Kids who were legally allowed to ride 50cc motorbikes to school, would also have to provide the school with a copy of their license, and were never allowed to enter school property on a motorbike without a helmet.

The problem here is that schools don't care, and many parents care even less.

I also can't understand why this petition singles out cars and "BIG" bikes, when 99.9% of motorbike deaths are related to small bikes.

Anyway, whichever official receives this petition, my guess is his response will be, if you are not happy with the way we do things here, then go home.
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Re: Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:21 pm

Takiap wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:22 am
How can any parent honestly say they love their children, and yet they actually encourage their kids to engage in potentially deadly behavior.
And if the alternative is 'don't go to school'? Miss out on your school certificate and end up working behind a hotel reception desk for life.
also can't understand why this petition singles out cars and "BIG" bikes, when 99.9% of motorbike deaths are related to small bikes.
I fully agree, the worst scares I get on the road are skinny teenagers in a white shirt on a small bike almost literally flying past me and weaving between me and the car in front. In the rain, even.

I feel so sad when an image of his bloody body laying on the tarmac comes into my mind unbidden. Youth knows no fear, and even blocks understanding of the danger of risk. In fact taking risk is hardwired into the brain of young boys. Police/schools/parents all need to play a part in education, but even then boys will be boys.

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Re: Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

Post by caller » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:06 pm

404cameljockey wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:21 pm
And if the alternative is 'don't go to school'? Miss out on your school certificate and end up working behind a hotel reception desk for life.
A university degree is often required for that!
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Re: Petition to stop under age children to drive to school in cars or big bikes in Thailand.

Post by 404cameljockey » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:39 pm

caller wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:06 pm
404cameljockey wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:21 pm
And if the alternative is 'don't go to school'? Miss out on your school certificate and end up working behind a hotel reception desk for life.
A university degree is often required for that!
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