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I disagree with the physical punishment part. That's the same logic used by parents who hit their children (I don't mean abuse). I think it's perfectly possible to train a dog (and a child, who by all means and purposes has the intelligence level of a dog when he's very young) without hitting. You do need to be VERY firm. No exceptions. And PLEASE get your dog back from the trainer --I don't know who came up with such a stupid idea: Give me your dog and he'll come back trained. Sorry, that does NOT work.


Takiap wrote:Lovicks......it all comes down to being firm, and showing your dogs that you are the alpha dog, and also the only alpha dog. Forget what some people say about never using any form of physical correction. Dogs ARE NOT humans, and they cannot be reasoned with. I suggest you read a post made (I think) by Homer earlier in this thread. In a pack, a lesser dog that pushes its luck with the alpha dog gets a bite. Not a serious bite, but a bite nonetheless. Wagging your finger and saying "bad doggie" has absolutely no effect at all. A good slap and a thorough shaking achieves far more. I have never yet had a problem dog, and none of my dogs have ever been scared of me, but they have always respected the fact that I am the boss. You also need to have a zero tolerance policy. If your dog is not allowed to do something, then it's never allowed to do it.


I would also recommend a shock collar if you feel you don't want to physically correct bad behavior. Contrary to popular belief, shock collars are not inhumane, and they do not cause any pain at all. I have looked at a few and felt a few myself, but have never had to use one yet.


Lastly, I agree with what others have said, in that only you can train your dogs. Again, if you're looking for a quick, easy, effective, and humane way to stop fighting, get a shock collar.


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My lady talked to the people that take your dog for a couple of months to train. She said it is the same people that train the military dogs or it is the military that does the training for your dog. 1 or the other. Anyway whoever she spoke to said the dogs would be highly trained. She said they would be trained not to eat food given to them from strangers. She said it was for security as if someone wanted to poison your dog or distract so they could break in to your home. Many other things to she was told. She was also told you could visit your dog while they are trained. This was about a year ago when she talked to them. I forget the price but I don't remember it being to bad. We didn't end up doing it because she didn't want to be away from the dogs that long. I hope this was of some help.
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Mrs D-M has heard about the same arrangement in Pranburi, not sure if police or military. I don't think I'd consider it for a moment, to be honest.
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dotx wrote:Anybody knows of a dog trainer in Hua Hin? Or somewhere nearby? The vet recommended one but I don't like the way he works. The trainer actually takes your dog for two months (and you're not allowed to visit), trains him and then returns him to you.

This is a very stupid idea. First, the only thing the dog will learn is to obey the trainer, not me. Second, I'm pretty sure the training will involve whatever is necessary, even if that means hitting the dog (which I don't agree with). Third, my problem is dog aggression (between my two dogs). Taking the dog away is certainly not going to fix that problem. So... bad idea all around.

I need a NORMAL trainer. Any suggestions? I'm kind of desperate because the aggression is getting to be a very serious problem.
Ther is a swedish dogtrainer in a kennel. Do you whant his telefonnumber?
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hundtokig wrote:Ther is a swedish dogtrainer in a kennel.
Don't you think you should let him out?
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dtaai-maai wrote:
hundtokig wrote:Ther is a swedish dogtrainer in a kennel.
Don't you think you should let him out?
Last time he was let out he bit somebody. :shock:
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I agree that a shock collar can be very beneficial. Both my dogs chased sheep when they were pups and they did not realise what they were doing was wrong. It was only the use of a shock collar that stopped them. Having said that I feel a shock collar should only be used as a last resort and not as a substitute for basic training. Finally set the control to the lowest setting at least initially. My experience with a Pacman is that a setting midway between low and high is very powerful. Dogs seem to be much more sensitive to electric shocks than humans.
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