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John HH wrote:Thanks for the report Pete, very informative. Am thinking about taking a trip over there later in the year specially for Disneyland but I'd like to check out HK too. Did you see much of HK at all? :cheers: john
I'm starting a new thread on this aspect John as we have some members on here who live in HK who may want to contribute in detail. I've had an office/agent there for 17 years and lived there in 1996, but I only get there a few times a year now by choice. Some old Hong Kong hands on here who are there now may have some good info.

If you want to see HK Island, Kowloon and Disneyland, best not to stay at a Disneyland hotel. You can take the MTR easily over to Disneyland and believe it or not, the station is close to the main gate and you'll avoid the 1/2 mile walk. :roll:. There's also ferry service from Wanchai and also perhaps Shun Tak Centre in Sheng Wan that docks at a new pier on Lantau right next to the Disneyland Hotel. Easy 5 minute bus from there to the park.

Air quality is not the best in Hong Kong these days and that means all year round. I was reading the SCMP that levels year on year are up about 20%. This is all caused by southern China factories and prevailing winds. Even at Disneyland, at the end of the day you felt like you had potatoes in your nose and sand in your throat. It's a big issue there and on going fighting with Bejing to do something about it. Next life I think.

I personally like Hong Kong Island by far over Kowloon and stay there all the time when I'm there. Many things to do and see. In fact, I always stay for the past many years at the hotel where the the movie "The World of Suzie Wong" was made, in Wanchai on Gloucester Road. It's of course been renovated and nothing like in the movie now. Gloucester Road used to be the water front of Victoria Harbour in the 1950's. It's now about a half mile inland due to land filling and new building expansion. I have a friend/associate I've worked with for many years who as a young boy after WWII clambered onto land off a boat at that exact spot in front of the hotel in a pair of shorts, no shirt or shoes after his family fled Mao's China.

Give me time over the next few weeks an I'll find some links for you that explain everything in better detail than I have the energy for at the moment.

I don't know if you're British but if you are you'll be happy to know IMO, HK has changed little since the handover 13 years ago. Yes of course the system has changed somewhat but you'll still see British influence everywhere and with most everything. The Hong Kong people are also fighting very hard to maintain and grow their independence from the Mainland and that fire in them was in no small way instilled in generation after generation by the British. Good for them. :D

However, 20 years makes a generation so some of the old thinking and ways of doing things may slip away in the next decade or so. :(

There's a lot of British colonial history still to be seen and experienced there. As mentioned, I'll try to give you some good tips, but I hope others will speak up also. Pete :cheers:
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I have to mention that by some of my above comments, I may have made any reply or input by a certain rugby maniac a bit difficult.

You're never sure about these things, but the risk is there that monitoring is going on concerning sensitive subjects and key words. :( Pete :cheers:
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Here you go Pete; from the net, a picture of Gloucester Road in the 50's.
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STEVE G wrote:Here you go Pete; from the net, a picture of Gloucester Road in the 50's.
Steve - love the old photo's. Have you got this larger or did you pull from the Internet?
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Thanks for that Steve. I'm going to send it off tomorrow to HK to get an expert opinion from my friend as to exactly where the bottom of the pic ends. I don't think it shows that part of Wanchai or the hotel I reference (Luk Kwok).

The top of the pic under the highest peak where all the development is Sheung Wan, the original and oldest settlement in Hong Kong. Will revert. Pete :cheers:
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I just found that on the internet; I'll have another look tomorrow as I'm sure there are many more old pictures of Hong Kong around.
What era was the Luk Kwok built in? I did find pictures of a hotel of that name but they all looked more recent.
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Here are a couple more bits of 1950's Hong Kong waterfront:
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Thanks all!! :cheers: HK has been on the "to do" list for a long time!! :thumb:
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STEVE G wrote:I just found that on the internet; I'll have another look tomorrow as I'm sure there are many more old pictures of Hong Kong around.
What era was the Luk Kwok built in? I did find pictures of a hotel of that name but they all looked more recent.
I don't know Steve. I'm searching for the hotel history but can't find any details yet. I do know it was there in 1946 when my friend arrived in HK, so good bet is that it probably survived WWII and built before that. It was totally renovated in the 80's which is what you see/find now with internet pics. Pete :cheers:
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Negative on the photos Steve. He says the hotel is further down than is captured in the pictures. Below is a link to the movie. Some interesting old photos in there and if can be believed, under the "Wanchai" paragraph is a pic of the old hotel under the name they used in the movie. Pete :cheers:

http://gwulo.com/the-world-of-suzie-won ... -locations
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Judging by the name, this must have been taken at the same time as the movie was filmed:
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Thanks for the info Pete. Looking foward to the links over the coming weeks.

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Great pic Steve. Didn't the Luk Kwok relocate from it's original infamous location, it certainly didn't enjoy a nice corner location like that, it was sandwiched between two old building from what I remember!? Our old company put us there for about a month in 1994 when we first went over to work on the new airport. Don't know when it was built/renovated but it was certainly in first class condition, highlighted all the more by the state of some of the surrounding buildings. Old and new, traditional Chinese restaurants next to East-meets-West cheesy-discos and hostess clubs, was all part of the charm of Wanchai, Hong Kong's Patpong, well sort of.

Brings back fond memories, had an amazing 3 years there, so many diverse places and people in such a small area. Agree with Pete, didn't really like Kowloon, HK Island was the place, you could be on tranquil Stanley Beach enjoying the afternoon sun, then hop in a taxi and 20 minutes later be in a blacked-out basement club surrounded by half of Manila 8)

Couldn't wait to get away in the end, too claustrophobic, too stressful dealing with the locals who appeared to grow more anti-gwielo (farang) as handover to China approached, but well worth a visit if you've not been yet. Definates for me would be to stay on HK Island (forget a Kowloon cheaper hotels), Stanley beach and market, the Peak, Star ferry to TST's harbour bustling shopping area, ferry to Cheng Chau (sp?) Island, walk across island to other ferry pier with big open seafood restaurants, walk from Wanchai to Causeway Bay or further down all the little back streets and local markets, Lantau Island's Discovery bay, ferry to Macua casinos.

Overriding memories were of Wanchai and darkness, bearing in mind we were single, mid-twenties and first time to Asia was getting dropped in the Luk Kwok 50 metres from Neptune 2, Big Apple, Joe Bananas, La Bamba etc. Wanchai was in a constant state of darkness, from arriving from the airport, to going out in evenings,coming home at night, being woken up to go to work, arriving home from work, it was always 'kin dark. Has anyone actually seen Wanchai in daylight? :P

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I first visited HK in 1980. Been back on quite a few occassions. I always preferred to stay in Kowloon! Maybe because thats where I first stayed? Only stayed on the island once. With the tunnel, tube and ferry's, it doesn't matter too much now, does it?

Anyone here remember the wonderful old colonial Repulse Bay Hotel? I remember having lunch on the verandah there, it was magical with a great history akin to Raffles, it even had its own version of the Singapore Sling, called the Hong Kong Cheongsam! Tasted pretty good as well, I recall. A bonus was that my then lovely girlfriend looked great in the real thing.

Of course, being Hong Kong, they eventually flattened the thing! :(
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Same location as always SJ per my friend who arrived in front of it after WWII. In Steve's old pic above, the road to the right of it is Laured Road. Other things around it have been changed and torn down over the years. Pete :cheers:
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