Pattaya - Hua Hin Ferry

[The understudy]

Hallo My friends

It looks like the Scadinavian Group who ard Planning to establish a Fery route between Hua Hin and Pattaya have folded. I haven't heard any News from them in a long time. Anybody who got inside News On Thhis Project please post here na krab!!!

Your's The understudy!!!

[kendo]

[quote="ozuncle"]Yes Barry,
This was January!
[/quote

This is not a rough sea if you look out over the gulf you will see small white crests on some waves this is just about a force 3 wind speed 8-12 mph or 7-10 knots. The reason that the waves coming ashore are quite big is because the water is shallow and it hits a sand bar, rocks, or a ledge that makes the power of the sea terbulant and unpredictable with tide and wind direction. Take a look and google the Beaufort wind scale i look at this with a lot of intrest as i have been a keen sailor since child hood and i drive some of the biggest dockside cranes in the world.

[ozuncle]

Hi Kendo,
I too have had considerable experience on the ocean waves.
Mainly fishing off the WA coast.
Want to see my photos.
It may be that further out, the sea may be a bit calmer. I dont know.
I remember the day and I would estimate the wind to be about 15 - 18 knots.
Anyway, who cares?

[kendo]

[quote="ozuncle"]Hi Kendo,
I too have had considerable experience on the ocean waves.
Mainly fishing off the WA coast.
Want to see my photos.
It may be that further out, the sea may be a bit calmer. I dont know.
I remember the day and I would estimate the wind to be about 15 - 18 knots.
Anyway, who cares?
[/quote
I to have fished off of Rotnest and other spots off the coast of Perth , just a few days before i arrived on one of my trips down under a large white fish with big teeth bit a doctors leg off and had lunch with his friend at Scarbough swimming club,a week later i was swimming there in the very shallow water and the coast was being patroled by small planes.
have a look at the Beaufort wind scale that sea is definetly not a force 5 www.zetnet.co.uk

[ozuncle]

Kendo
Your link is irelevant. (or does not work in Oz.)

What has sharks got to do with it.

I am not a fool. I know a windy day when I see it!

Where you there in early Jan 08 ?

[Big Boy]

Kendo,

He's right about that link. It redirects you ti zetnet.com, which is an internet/telecoms site.

Certainly nothing there about wind.

[kendo]

try and google the beaufort wind scale this is a recognised offical scale with a discription of sea or land conditions with a wind scale rating force 1 to force 12.
Ozuncle i have not been to Perth for 7 years but have been there 4 times staying at Woodvale,the thing about the shark just thinking back to my happy memorys of WA but the thing i liked the most was the freemantle doctor the sea breeze that comes off the indian ocean in the afternoon and cools things down a bit, just nice when your sat outside the OBH drink in hand.

[PeteC]

An update to this oldie. A new company named 'Thailife" has been advertising in the local papers over here for English speaking Captain and crew. No idea what there plan is, or when. When you look up www.thailife.net there is an incomplete web page with a Thai guy's picture on it. Pete

[margaretcarnes]

Maybe planning an undercover project off Sattahip Pete!

[Khundon1975]

Maybe planning an undercover project off Sattahip Pete!

Mags

Maybe a new undersea container dock?

Kendo could get a work permit here.

I have sailed since I was 13 and that pic shows a sea state of no more that 3-4 in my humble opinion.

[margaretcarnes]

Yup I've seen bigger waves hitting Brid harbour. And that was in summer

[ozuncle]

Yup I've seen bigger waves hitting Brid harbour. And that was in summer

and Khundon1975.

So sorry. I should have done more research and checked exact wave heights before I posted that photo and comment.
In actual fact I still believe that on a windy day like that, it would be a very uncomfortable trip and most people would prefer to catch a taxi, for probably less money.
Not to mention lack of safety standards and the number of life jackets on board!

[Big Boy]

In actual fact I still believe that on a windy day like that, it would be a very uncomfortable trip and most people would prefer to catch a taxi, for probably less money.

In a sea as per the photo, I doubt whether you'd even notice if the stabilisers were engaged.

[kendo]

THE BEAUFORT WIND SCALE

One of the first scales to estimate wind speeds and the effects was
created by Britain's Admiral Sir Francis Beaufort (1774-1857). He
developed the scale in 1805 to help sailors estimate the winds via
visual observations. The scale starts with 0 and goes to a force of 12.
The Beaufort scale is still used today to estimate wind strengths.

The Beaufort scale:

For use on land
For use at sea

BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use on land

FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE ON LAND
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Calm; smoke rises verticall.
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Direction of wind shown by
smoke drift, but not by wind
vanes.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Wind felt on face; leaves
rustle; ordinary vanes moved
by wind.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Leaves and small twigs in
constant motion; wind extends
light flag.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Raises dust and loose paper;
small branches are moved.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Small trees in leaf begin to
sway; crested wavelets form on
inland waters.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large branches in motion;
whistling heard in telegraph
wires; umbrellas used with
difficulty.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Whole trees in motion;
inconvenience felt when walking
against the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Breaks twigs off trees;
generally impedes progress.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale Slight structural damage occurs
(chimney-pots and slates removed).
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Seldom experienced inland; trees
uprooted; considerable structural
damage occurs.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Very rarely experienced;
accompanied by wide-spread damage.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane --

For use on land
For use at sea
Top of page

BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use at sea

FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE AT SEA
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Sea like a mirror
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Ripples with the appearance of
scales are formed, but without
foam crests.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Small wavelets, still short,
but more pronounced. Crests
have a glassy appearance and
do not break.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Large wavelets. Crests begin
to break. Foam of glassy
appearance. Perhaps scattered
white horses.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Small waves, becoming larger;
fairly frequent white horses.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Moderate waves, taking a more
pronounced long form; many
white horses are formed.
Chance of some spray.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large waves begin to form; the
white foam crests are more
extensive everywhere.
Probably some spray.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Sea heaps up and white foam
from breaking waves begins to
be blown in streaks along the
direction of the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Moderately high waves of greater
length; edges of crests begin to
breakinto spindrift. The foam is
blown in well-marked streaks
along the direction of the wind.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale High waves. Dense streaks of
foam along the direction of the
wind. Crests of waves begin to
topple, tumble and roll over.
Spray may affect visibility.
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Very high waves with long over-
hanging crests. The resulting
foam, in great patches, is blown
in dense white streaks along the
direction of the wind. On the
whole the surface of the sea
takes on a white appearance.
The 'tumbling' of the sea becomes
heavy and shock-like. Visibility
affected.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Exceptionally high waves (small
and medium-size ships might be for
a time lost to view behind the
waves). The sea is completely
covered with long white patches
of foam lying along the direction
of the wind. Everywhere the edges
of the wave crests are blown into
froth. Visibility affected.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane The air is filled with foam and
spray. Sea completely white with
driving spray; visibility very
seriously affected.



In my book those small waves with occasional white crests are a force 3
and as i have stated before the waves coming ashore are more rough because when deep water meets shallow water i.e over a ledge rocks or sand bar the sea state will become turbulent.

With a deep V catarmaran they are not suited to rough sea because large waves crash between the hulls and they start to pitch in a cork screw type motion and this is not comfortable at all.

As fare as the sea go's i know a bit i have been sailing and racing since a a kid and have crewed on the Edith Emily an x Aron life boat that used to do Red Letter days.

Kendo.

[margaretcarnes]

Ozuncle - don't worry - a bit of kidology going on earlier! Seriously though I wouldn't fancy that Gulf crossing at any time. Even in calmer weather. It would certainly take a new farang run vessel with enough life belts for more than the crew to convince me!