Police Set Ups Still Alive and Kicking

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Bravo the last two posts. He's taken enough of a beating.
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cheapercharlie wrote:Thank you for your honest post. Maybe it will help the next guy - who has put his guard down and thinks that "anything goes" here in Thailand. It was obvious to many, that that was the intent of your initial post.

Ignore the angry trolls who confronted you. They can't help themselves. They obviously suffer from a combination of damaged nature and dysfunctional nurture. Long term alcohol abuse exacerbates the problem. They live in a very small bubble, and reinforce each others bad behavior. It discourages others from posting... and reading, the HHF.

You are medicating yourself.... as are the bar-flys ... so maybe a doctor's visit would help: I think you realize how close you came to ruining your future employment chances. I taught English in Ecuador, and the prisons are full of young travelers serving long sentences for marijuana possession.

I am an anti-drug guy ( including nicotine and alcohol abuse). Look for an alternative: Diet, exercise... intellectual pursuits.

"Good Luck" ... because sometimes it runs out ! Maybe I will wish you "Good Decisions", instead.


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GLC knows my feelings on taking drugs although I do use nicotine and alchohol!!
I don't condone breaking the law. However, many many Thai teachers break the law every day by beating their students whenever it takes their fance. Fortunately, more and more of those teachers are now being taken to task.

I don't believe he is preaching the use of weed to his students. On the contrary, he has been named the most popular in the school and appeared on TV 2 or 3 times to discuss teaching methods.

I spoke with 3 policemen this week about this situation and they said separately that anyone caught with just a 'splif' would pay a small fine (maybe in the form of tea money to the arresting cop). However, if they were dealing, then the book would be thrown at them.

I'm against the use of drugs especially when it means breaking the law. I wish tobacco had been made illegal before I got hooked on it. I can't find anything supporting the use of tobacco or alcohol. However, I did find the following in a recent medical journal:

Cannabis can improve the appetite and sense of tase in cancer patients.

Cannabis can improve symptoms of chronic (long-term) neuropathic pain. Neuropathic pain is long-term pain resulting from injury to the nervous system.

Cannador, a Cannabis plant extract, can effectively relieve pain after major surgery.

Cannabis can help alleviate MS symptoms of spasticity. 'Sativex', an oral spray made using cannabis extract, was approved in 2010 in the United Kingdom for use with patients with multiple sclerosis.

Active chemicals in Cannabis can halt prostate cancer growth.

Cannabis may protect people from osteoporosis later on in life.

Some memory-loss symptoms similar to those found in Alzheimer's disease were reduced in laboratory mice experiments when scientists treated them with some of the chemicals present in cannabis.

Substances found in Cannabis may help alleviate allergic contact dermatitis symptoms.

For patients with chronic pain, adding cannabinoids - the main ingredients in cannabis - to an opiates-only treatment, may provide better results, than opiates alone. Moreover, patients on the combination treatment would benefit from reduced opiate dosages.

A component of Cannabis could help alleviate pain associated with chemotherapy.

Therapy with cannabinoids may help reduce or prevent the symptoms of PTSD (post-traumatic stress syndrome), Israeli researchers found in animal (mice) experiments.

Preliminary studies have also found indications that Cannabis may have therapeutic uses for the following (further studies are needed):

- migraines
- inflammatory bowel disease
- fibromyalgia
- alcohol abuse
- collagen-induced arthritis
- asthma
- epilepsy
- several digestive diseases
- gliomas (malignant tumor of the glial tissue of the nervous system)
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Ok, i try to avoid confrontations on the forum these days. That's why I never read the lower section that starts with "Foo" as that's where most of the people dwell who tend to get under my skin. However, I have an opinion on the use of this substance and will post it.

Like alcohol and tobacco, depending on the person, it can be addictive. You have to understand your own personality and behavior tendencies to understand whether it will harm or help you. I used it plenty of times over twenty of my early years, but never craved it. Many others I knew stayed high nearly 24/7 and were totally unproductive couch potatoes because of it. So if you can handle it responsibly without it taking over your life AND you live in a place where it is legal then I have no problem with it. Otherwise you should try to avoid it. If it is legal and you can use it the same way a responsible drinker does; after work and only minimal amount, go for it but otherwise stay away from it.
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Good advice HHF. Personally, I would advise against it, legal or otherwise, but that is just me. There does seem a lot of 'good press' for it over the last few years which would account for the swell in many countries to de-criminalise it. Even in Thailand it's a class 5 drug.

Cocaine was once legal and hailed to be a wonder drug. Sigmund Freud was one of the advocates of using the drug. After all Coca-Cola originally used it in their 'health drink' until it was banned. They won the court case to keep the name.

Used as you say, HHF, then I suppose it's okay.
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GLCQuantum wrote:Sure, but having first hand accounts to read can drill the message home a little more.

If it was a tourist that it had happened to he would have been stuffed. Also, if you use recreational drugs back in your home country, make sure you leave enough time for it to be out of your system before you come to Thailand (don't know how much time that would be). If my urine had tested positive for substances I would still have been in trouble. Police can do on the spot urine tests as and when they please. So if you did a little bit of 'whatever' a day before your flight, you can still get done for it here quite easily. I'm not sure what the punishments are for testing positive for hard substances.

:cheers:

I am not going to judge you on you're personal pleasures if you want to smoke enjoy :rasta: it's you're business.
Now I am also subject to random testing because of my line of work operating six million pound cranes.
We are also given info on drug misuse. Recreational drugs are normally peed out within 24 hours but the use of cannabis is broken down by body fat and can stay with regular use in your body for about six weeks.
I have friends that work in the local oil refinery and they have told me it can stay in your hair for upto six months.

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Bamboo Grove wrote:I actually thought that your post, GLC, was very good. A good warning for those who are too innocent or for the newcomers. I remember eons ago in Chiang Mai, there was a similar trap but luckily, I didn't do any weed or any other similar thing, just walked away from it. They were trying to sell me white powder trying to get me into a similar situation as you have just been. There are those who are naive enough to fall into it and so it must actually be quite common. So, thanks for the warning.
Yes, I think I've told this story before on here but I'll tell it again to show just how bad this kind of thing can get.
When I was living in Jakarta I was once introduced to a 21 year old Chinese-Indonesian girl who lived in the area, a pleasant girl from a good family, similar to the many HiSo Thais that you see in Hua Hin at the weekends.
Some weeks later she was arrested with another Indonesian at a police road block for possession of a small amount of recreational drugs, I think ecstasy or something similar. The police, seeing that they were from wealthy families, decided to make some money. They went to the friends family and extracted a large bribe to release him and then went to the girls house. For some reason they refused to pay, either the amount was too much or they were angry about their daughter or something of that nature.
Shortly after she was shot dead by the police in a small back street nearby, "trying to escape".
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Ginjaninja wrote:3) You're actively condoning the use of illegal substances with your pupils - Now that's just completely immoral!

I'm with the pitchfork brigrade.....
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I have never, nor will ever condone the use of cannabis with anyone (students and adults alike). I will however suggest it as a far better 'alternative' to friends who are heavy drinkers.
cheapercharlie wrote:Thank you for your honest post. Maybe it will help the next guy - who has put his guard down and thinks that "anything goes" here in Thailand. It was obvious to many, that that was the intent of your initial post.

Ignore the angry trolls who confronted you. They can't help themselves. They obviously suffer from a combination of damaged nature and dysfunctional nurture. Long term alcohol abuse exacerbates the problem. They live in a very small bubble, and reinforce each others bad behavior. It discourages others from posting... and reading, the HHF.

You are medicating yourself.... as are the bar-flys ... so maybe a doctor's visit would help: I think you realize how close you came to ruining your future employment chances. I taught English in Ecuador, and the prisons are full of young travelers serving long sentences for marijuana possession.

I am an anti-drug guy ( including nicotine and alcohol abuse). Look for an alternative: Diet, exercise... intellectual pursuits.

"Good Luck" ... because sometimes it runs out ! Maybe I will wish you "Good Decisions", instead.
Thank you cheapercharlie,

I play football after school 5 days a week, but it can be a little boring playing on your own in the school field. The problem is that most expats here (in my area, pretty sure it's similiar in Hua Hin) aren't up for joining in a kickabout often. Any after school activity entails a bottle of beer whether it's going to a restaurant, sitting at the local shop, going to the pink dolphin bay or joining in a quiz session which I don't really want to do (the beer drinking). I enjoy a beer too, but after people have had three or four I find the conversation tends to be loud, rude, aggresive and somewhat vulgar in some cases.

You are absolutely spot on in the fact I am medicating myself. I'm only 30, so I'm sure I will get past the stage I'm at with a little more effort on my part. I will continue trying to finish my book for the time being (it's only been three and a half years now :shock: ) and maybe post on the other website to see if there are any weekly footie matches and training I could join in Bangers.

So, I'm done with the weed for the time being (fortunately it isn't addictive)...

and, as it happens, valium takes the edge off just the same in the evenings anyway. :wink:

Thanks for the posts people

:cheers:
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Stolen money returned to me this morning at the school, with corrupt policeman made to apologise to my face.

:dance:

Result and a lesson learnt (for me... probably not for him).

Never again!!!

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Well done but I guess now your card is marked
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Understood guys and I certainly will be avoiding the dark nights. Fortunately, I rarely venture outside at night (rarely go anywhere at all really... what a sad life I live :wink: ) and I also live within the school grounds so unwelcome visitors are unable to gain entry. I have everything I need within the school grounds anway: football field, swimming pool, gym, cafe, library, basketball court (though I'm shite at basketball).

The Superintendent also said that, if there were to be any repercussions from this event, that the guys in question would be the first people in the lockup.

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It's been over 3 years now -

Are the conservative attitudes of HHF netizens still so pervasive or have we all become more worldly in 2016?

Quite frankly I was shocked to read some of the very strong comments condemning the OP.
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Would I love some good pot and some free speech here.
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Deep Blue wrote:Would I love some good pot and some free speech here.
I know right. It's crazy how expats have internalised Thai style self-censorship and paranoid anti-drug rhetoric
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