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Property open for discussion
We have opened this section for discussion on property, real estate, land and the ins and outs of buying or selling in Hua Hin.
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Please don't use it to post ads for your own properties or promotional posts for real estate companies. Discussion only!
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- HansMartin
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South of center, east of railway, walking distance from the center. Quiet soi near the beach.
Best soi in HH is 88/1, second best 88/2.
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South of center, east of railway, walking distance from the center. Quiet soi near the beach.
Best soi in HH is 88/1, second best 88/2.
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"There's no plausible or convincing reason, certainly no evidential one, to believe that there is such an entity (= deity) and that all observable phenomena, including the cosmological ones... are explicable without the hypothesis; you don't need the assumption."
- HansMartin
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- HansMartin
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How pricey is pricey?
When I was there in Novemebr after the heavy rains we looked at some properties with a local realator. Numerous roads were severely damaged by the rain. "Don't worry the town will fix it." Yeah, right. No drainage facilites were designed fort he road, so eveni f they were fixed they would just be damaged again in the next rain.
So my question is did the town fix the roads? is this a common occurence in the lower , flatter areas?
When I was there in Novemebr after the heavy rains we looked at some properties with a local realator. Numerous roads were severely damaged by the rain. "Don't worry the town will fix it." Yeah, right. No drainage facilites were designed fort he road, so eveni f they were fixed they would just be damaged again in the next rain.
So my question is did the town fix the roads? is this a common occurence in the lower , flatter areas?
HansMartin wrote:
In some areas the town seems to fix (make that 'patch up') the roads where the water has washed away part of it. But they do not seems to fix the underlying cause of the problem, insufficient storm drainage.
It just seems to be more of a re-surfacing exercise.
My advice would be to buy land or houses in a flood free area, even if you are paying more for the privelege.
Burger
So my question is did the town fix the roads?
In some areas the town seems to fix (make that 'patch up') the roads where the water has washed away part of it. But they do not seems to fix the underlying cause of the problem, insufficient storm drainage.
It just seems to be more of a re-surfacing exercise.
My advice would be to buy land or houses in a flood free area, even if you are paying more for the privelege.
Burger
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Do not assume that if they put a drain in the road the storm water problem will be cured. In my soi they installed a drain in the middle of the road.In the wet season the water flows from the west to east across the road, the driest part of the road is the middle as the camber is at it's highest. The drainage inlets are higher than the road so little or no water gets caught by the drain.
It would be so much easier to build the roads properly with proper drainage and then place a weight limit on it to curtail the overloaded trucks which cause to much damage.
I am told that there are so many back handers going that the contractors can do more or less as they please. It is in their interest to carry out inferior work as they will be ask to fix the damage ,more profir more bungs.
It would be so much easier to build the roads properly with proper drainage and then place a weight limit on it to curtail the overloaded trucks which cause to much damage.
I am told that there are so many back handers going that the contractors can do more or less as they please. It is in their interest to carry out inferior work as they will be ask to fix the damage ,more profir more bungs.
- HansMartin
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By profession I am a civil engineer in the US with a appreciation for basic infrastructure issues--water, sewer, drainage, roads, proper structure design, etc. What I saw in Nov. was prettty pathetic. So much of what I saw wouldn't be worth a second glance. I'm not looking to meet US or European standards; but I am looking for something that at least passes the basic sanity test.
Reasonable quality at a reasonable price, and the amenities that we all are looking for. Is that so hard to find? I really like HH, but so much of the new development is so marginal !!!
It reminds me of the crappy California developments of the 60s that I am currently rehabilitating.
Oh well enough ranting--time to watch the opening ceremonies of the winter Olympics, and drink some more wine.
Reasonable quality at a reasonable price, and the amenities that we all are looking for. Is that so hard to find? I really like HH, but so much of the new development is so marginal !!!
It reminds me of the crappy California developments of the 60s that I am currently rehabilitating.
Oh well enough ranting--time to watch the opening ceremonies of the winter Olympics, and drink some more wine.
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Hans you are right they are building tomorrows slums. The pity of it all is that it could be so much better ,with little cost.
Hua Hin has expanded ten fold in the last 3 years with no thought to infrastructure. I have said elsewhere it is down to vested interests. If you have the connections you can get roads and lighting . Drainage is probablygoing to be to the sea untreated, mai pen ai.
There is no planned expasion of water holding but think of all the housing not to mention the the swiming pools but as the thais say mai pen rai..
Why should i worry i only livehere by tolerance,of the thai people / government.
Hua Hin has expanded ten fold in the last 3 years with no thought to infrastructure. I have said elsewhere it is down to vested interests. If you have the connections you can get roads and lighting . Drainage is probablygoing to be to the sea untreated, mai pen ai.
There is no planned expasion of water holding but think of all the housing not to mention the the swiming pools but as the thais say mai pen rai..
Why should i worry i only livehere by tolerance,of the thai people / government.
HansMartin Wrote:
But if you look around the various developments, you can find proper drainage connected to the local 'klong', you can find reliable 3-phase electric supply, clean water supply from the developments own well/bore, houses that have architectural and structural drawings where the steel re-inforcing and concrete thicknesses are detailed on those drawings etc.
But obviously if you do not have the construction background/knowledge that Hans has, you may be best advised to have the house you like checked out by a professional.
Good luck,
Burger
There are many good quality developments in Hua Hin that meet those requirements. There are also many that do not.Reasonable quality at a reasonable price, and the amenities that we all are looking for. Is that so hard to find? I really like HH, but so much of the new development is so marginal
But if you look around the various developments, you can find proper drainage connected to the local 'klong', you can find reliable 3-phase electric supply, clean water supply from the developments own well/bore, houses that have architectural and structural drawings where the steel re-inforcing and concrete thicknesses are detailed on those drawings etc.
But obviously if you do not have the construction background/knowledge that Hans has, you may be best advised to have the house you like checked out by a professional.
Good luck,
Burger
Burger,
You are spot on, some developments are constructed to high standards,
I am no expert, but when you see a crappy house under construction alongside a good place it is pretty easy to see which will last longer. Obviously a dodgy builder can hide somethings, maybe HansMartin has advice on what to look for - very useful i think.
Problem is many people are buying these cheap 2 million baht new builds with no idea of what they are gonna get. If its cheap its is so for a reason - like buying a pair of shoes, you get what you pay for, you can be re-healing pretty soon! - It aint rocket science.
You are spot on, some developments are constructed to high standards,
I am no expert, but when you see a crappy house under construction alongside a good place it is pretty easy to see which will last longer. Obviously a dodgy builder can hide somethings, maybe HansMartin has advice on what to look for - very useful i think.
Problem is many people are buying these cheap 2 million baht new builds with no idea of what they are gonna get. If its cheap its is so for a reason - like buying a pair of shoes, you get what you pay for, you can be re-healing pretty soon! - It aint rocket science.