Motor bikes..careful

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With the ever increasing number of motorbikes on the road in H/H,i am always on the watch for them,however yesterday i had taken my car to Isuzu for a service,on the way out,i stopped at Petchkassem rd,waited for the traffic on my right to clear,then commenced to make my left turn...wham..female bike rider down,she is not hurt,minor damage to her bike and my car,she is saying sorry,i ask her why are you riding on the wrong side of the road? as many of them do this i did not expect to get an answer,i assisted her and got her bike back up,in the meantime another female arrived on the scene to assist,all ok.so i once again headed out into the traffic,Wham??? this second female had parked her bike up against my Isuzu on the passenger side,it was not visible from the drivers seat,once again she had come up on the wrong side of the road,once again assisted this lady and her bike.
Why are the police not policing this here in H/H? i read i think in the local bar paper awol,where they had clamped down on it i think in Cha Am. So dangerous.So to all when entering traffic look right and left i guess. Good start to 2013,after driving for about 30 years plus with no accidents in Australia,i need to adjust. :banghead:
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I must admit, that is the one aspect of driving in Thailand that still catches me out. Pulling out onto a duel carriageway, and forgetting to look left. I/the motorcyclists have been very lucky on several occassions. In my 3 months of driving here, I've even encountered 3 cars and one lorry coming down the motorcycle lane the wrong way also.

I just hope that I get into the habit of looking the wrong way everytime, before somebody gets injured.

I was driving down Soi 94 a couple of weeks ago, when the car in front indicated right. I laughed to my wife, and said typical Thai indication - indicating right, when he wants to go left. Sure enough, he turned right up Petchkasem Road :?
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Oh yes indeed - if you are turning left at a T junction (for example) never assume that looking right is enough. One day there is bound to be a motorcycle on the wrong side of the road or cutting the corner. Guaranteed.
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Out of interest, if the unthinkable did happen, and we both failed to stop, who would be in the wrong? Common sense tells me it would be the motorcyclist, but TIT.
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The other thing to watch out for is when you are turning right into a side road. You may have your indicators on and be moving to the middle of the road but that will not stop the motor bike or car behind you overtaking you; this has happened to me several times.
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moja wrote:The other thing to watch out for is when you are turning right into a side road. You may have your indicators on and be moving to the middle of the road but that will not stop the motor bike or car behind you overtaking you; this has happened to me several times.
Yes, exactly. That happened to me awhile ago on Petchkasem Rd. I think that a lot of that comes from the fact that very few people use their indicators, the result being nobody sees them when they are being used. :banghead:
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Yes, happened to me several times, but I am always aware to that one.
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Out of interest, if the unthinkable did happen, and we both failed to stop, who would be in the wrong? Common sense tells me it would be the motorcyclist, but TIT.
Likely, if the other party is Thai and you are a foreigner, you would be considered in the wrong. It's happened to me here twice (one motorbike and one car). Both times I was hit in the rear while dead stopped. Both times I was "lucky" enough to be charged but only ordered to pay my own damage and not the damage to the other vehicles as the other car was insured and the motorcycle had minimal damage. I've known foreigners that had to pay extortion money to get out of a mess to either police or the other party when the foreigner did everything lawfully. One of the joys of living here. :wink:
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I know that is the myth of living in Thailand, but is it reality? I assume if I was deemed to be in the wrong, my insurance would have to pay. Therefore, if it's always the Farangs fault, why aren't Farang insurance premiums inflated accordingly?
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Big Boy wrote:Therefore, if it's always the Farangs fault, why aren't Farang insurance premiums inflated accordingly?
As far as I'm aware they insure the vehicle here, not the driver.

The only time we've been hit the other guy was plainly and admittedly at fault but had no insurance so of course we had to claim on ours to cover the damage to our car. The police, as usual, did nothing.
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Big Boy wrote:I know that is the myth of living in Thailand, but is it reality?
I wrote this on another thread last May (viewtopic.php?f=44&t=15962&p=261348#p261348)

"I was unfortunate enough to be involved in a minor accident yesterday.
Was driving south out of Hua Hin in the rain and, as I approached the zebra crossing opposite Market Village, 2 tourists started walking over the crossing, so I stopped and was immediately rear ended by a Honda Wave, driven by a Thai woman without a helmet and with her 5 year-old granddaughter, also with no helmet.

I got out and the woman immediately started shouting at me that I was wrong for stopping.
I checked that nobody was injured, especially the child, and tried to find a policeman but none in sight (well, it was raining).

Some Thai people had seen the accident and asked me if I would like them to call the police and I agreed.
I then phoned AA Insurance and spoke to Matt, who gave me the insurance company's call-centre number.

There was about 10k of damage to my car.

Police soon arrived, were very polite, checked that I had insurance and a licence and asked me to go to the police station. It turned out the Thai woman didn't have a licence.

Got to the station and the insurance representative arrived and I explained the situation.

The police immediately found the woman at fault, fined her on the spot for careless driving and gave me a copy of their report saying I was not at fault.

The insurance agent gave me the name, address and phone number of a contract spray shop where I could get my car repaired.
He also gave me his report, saying I was not at fault.
He told me to get the car repaired at the insurance company's expense and they would then reclaim the money from the Thai woman.

The time from the actual accident to leaving the police station was 90 minutes.
The police and the insurance rep were every polite and objective and the whole thing was handled very professionally.

When I left the police station, Matt from AA was even there to ask me if everything had gone ok - now that's what I call customer care!

So if you do have an accident and you know you're in the right, don't worry or panic.
Stay calm, go through the procedure and hopefully, as in my case, fairness will prevail."

In my 12 years in Thailand, I've been involved in 4 minor accidents, all involving uninsured 'motorsai' - never once have I had to pay, even where the police were involved on 3 occasions - and it was me who called them.
On the 4th occasion the Thai guy paid me out of his own pocket for minor damage so as to get everything over quickly.
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i can echo barry here ,a moterbike ran in the back of my parked up truck in issan and when the police came they never even questioned or asked me ,they asked my wife if i was ok i was sat in the car at the time ,and then made the thai lady pay for any damage to my truck ,i could not fault them ,everything was sorted ,the even took me to a garage and organised the repair quote and charged the lady
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The main RULE here is call the insurance company and let them deal with all parties involved. Do not try and explain anything, just wait until they arrive.
I wouldn't have to manage my anger if people could learn to mange their stupidity!
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The worst accident I have EVER seen in Thailand was on the BKK road just BKK, where before those humps were in the road over the klongs..a car undertook our line of cars, flew over the bridge/hump & WHAM!!..
..the car hit a family on a motorcycle coming the 'wrong-way'..body parts were strewn all over 3 lanes!!
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