My first post here, been reading for a while, a little bemused by some of the crap that people come out with. Get off your soap boxes and talk about constructive stuff!
The real topic of this post is about our arch enemy here in Thailand - The motorbike. I learned last night of another tragic death. A real nice guy called Stu. He was not a guy i knew very well, talk in the bar and have a beer sort of thing. He was always happy, smilling and fun. My thoughts are with his wife and child whos world has been torn apart. Stu was ,I guess, a similar age to Mickey from Asia Property who also died in a bloody unlucky accident in March.
We as a community must start to watch each others backs. If you see someone who is not in a fit state to ride try and talk to them, or steal the keys. I have riden home many times and not been able to remember getting home - IT IS CRAZY - we are supposed to have some common sense. And lets get the helmets on. Please lets learn from this. If anyone has some good ideas or suggestions lets talk about it and try not to let these guys die in vain. Rest in Peace Guys
Another sad day
Hello JW.
I fully upport your intentions regarding riding bikes in the late hours.
Drunk driving is a BIG PROBLEM here in Hua Hin/Thailand and we should not contribute to their frightening bad accident statistic.
See my post yesterday about this accident.
I learn that "Stu" was hit from behind while making a U-turn/crossing.
Let's all try to persuade any driver to avoid drinking and driving. I would guess that this could work among most of the farangs, but I would personally never attemp to grab the keys from a drunk Thai!!!
I fully upport your intentions regarding riding bikes in the late hours.
Drunk driving is a BIG PROBLEM here in Hua Hin/Thailand and we should not contribute to their frightening bad accident statistic.
See my post yesterday about this accident.
I learn that "Stu" was hit from behind while making a U-turn/crossing.
Let's all try to persuade any driver to avoid drinking and driving. I would guess that this could work among most of the farangs, but I would personally never attemp to grab the keys from a drunk Thai!!!
Totally agree with your sentiments. This wouldnt be the same guy mentioned in this thread would it: http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/vi ... php?t=2042
I guess it is but i didnt think Stu was that old. In reality it wont stop but if we can just put the squeeze on each other when out together it may just stop this bollocks happening so often. You just wonder about his family, raelly lovely wife and baby. Maybe put a picture of yours on your keyring - it might make you remember?
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spot on.[/code]We as a community must start to watch each others backs. If you see someone who is not in a fit state to ride try and talk to them, or steal the keys. I have riden home many times and not been able to remember getting home - IT IS CRAZY - we are supposed to have some common sense. And lets get the helmets on. Please lets learn from this. If anyone has some good ideas or suggestions lets talk about it and try not to let these guys die in vain. Rest in Peace Guys
shakin' boxcar joe.
I heard of Mickey's death only recently. Very sad. Can anyone tell me what happened? I agree that we need to be conscience of the dangers of riding motor cycles in HH. Perhaps because it is the main and best form of transport in a fairly laid back patch of Earth, we do tend to lose sight of the dangers.
Mickey was riding home in the morning about 9am. He was on Nebkaha road outside Bon Cafe. People think he fell asleep cause he was going really slowly. He ran along the curb and fell off and hit is head on some broken pavement, suffered big head injuries. His bike stopped only a few metres away from him. Really so unlucky if he had fallen just about anywhere else he would have been ok. Really sad.
The last guy was also a great guy, its always the good uns who lose out somehow.
The last guy was also a great guy, its always the good uns who lose out somehow.
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JW has a good point as always.
There are needs for an anti-stupidity campaign. The objective being to stop people riding M/Cs when drunk, avoiding late night driving and stop this ridiculous and perilous practice of driving on the wrong side of the road which is motivated by sheer laziness.
Any sugestions are welcome.
The Thais (bless their cotton socks) have absolutely no sense of danger. (Sorry Oe and Oi but sometimes the truth needs to be spoken).
Things are already happening in Bangkok to rid the streets of drunken arseholes.
Let us not wait ten years and another (Buddha knows how many) deaths before something is done.
As JW correctly states, many lives are affected dramatically after the death of a person in a road traffic accident.
Let us do something.
There are needs for an anti-stupidity campaign. The objective being to stop people riding M/Cs when drunk, avoiding late night driving and stop this ridiculous and perilous practice of driving on the wrong side of the road which is motivated by sheer laziness.
Any sugestions are welcome.
The Thais (bless their cotton socks) have absolutely no sense of danger. (Sorry Oe and Oi but sometimes the truth needs to be spoken).
Things are already happening in Bangkok to rid the streets of drunken arseholes.
Let us not wait ten years and another (Buddha knows how many) deaths before something is done.
As JW correctly states, many lives are affected dramatically after the death of a person in a road traffic accident.
Let us do something.
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Hi Appletree,
Have done the same many times myself. Had it done to me a couple of times, which is cool with me. If we can get more to do the same and put the word around then maybe things will get better. It would be nice to think that we could get away with putting signs up in the bar sayin that your keys can be left safely if your pisd - will the punters trust it - who knows.
Please if anyone sees me about to do it take my keys! Please.
Have done the same many times myself. Had it done to me a couple of times, which is cool with me. If we can get more to do the same and put the word around then maybe things will get better. It would be nice to think that we could get away with putting signs up in the bar sayin that your keys can be left safely if your pisd - will the punters trust it - who knows.
Please if anyone sees me about to do it take my keys! Please.
The last two posts on this sad matter are spot on, in respect to the bar owners taking keys from customers that are obviously drunk.
In Australia, the police, licensing depts and the courts come down very heavily on bars that serve people who are obviously drunk. All staff that are employed in the hotels now have to undergo responsible service of alchohol training before they first take a job, and as far as I know this training is ongoing.
The police also target pubs that have bad reputations and set up regular breath test stations to catch drink drivers, and if you happen to get caught, most times you will loose your licence and a be given a large fine.
Do the police there not have the same powers to set up road blocks and do mass breath testing of all drivers, as it is certainly working as a deterrent here??
There is a major hotel in Perth where one of it clients fell from a hotel balcony and died. They have charged the hotel owners, the hotel licencee and the two staff who served the lady while she was obviously drunk, and are now awaiting trial over the matter.
I know that it is a bit different over in HH, but when it comes down to it, if the bar owners are not taking responsiblilty for making sure that people are not driving drunk, it up to you all to look after your mates and make sure that the drunk ones do not drive.
While I was in HH a short time ago (from what I saw), I am sure that most of the time, people drink in their own favorite bars, so it is not that you are in a situation where you are leaving your keys with someone that you do not know.
As previously stated, it is not only the driver who has been drinking that an accident affects, it is all of the family and friends etc that it ends up affecting.
Lastly my thoughts go out to the friends and familys of the two people who have been mentioned in this post
In Australia, the police, licensing depts and the courts come down very heavily on bars that serve people who are obviously drunk. All staff that are employed in the hotels now have to undergo responsible service of alchohol training before they first take a job, and as far as I know this training is ongoing.
The police also target pubs that have bad reputations and set up regular breath test stations to catch drink drivers, and if you happen to get caught, most times you will loose your licence and a be given a large fine.
Do the police there not have the same powers to set up road blocks and do mass breath testing of all drivers, as it is certainly working as a deterrent here??
There is a major hotel in Perth where one of it clients fell from a hotel balcony and died. They have charged the hotel owners, the hotel licencee and the two staff who served the lady while she was obviously drunk, and are now awaiting trial over the matter.
I know that it is a bit different over in HH, but when it comes down to it, if the bar owners are not taking responsiblilty for making sure that people are not driving drunk, it up to you all to look after your mates and make sure that the drunk ones do not drive.
While I was in HH a short time ago (from what I saw), I am sure that most of the time, people drink in their own favorite bars, so it is not that you are in a situation where you are leaving your keys with someone that you do not know.
As previously stated, it is not only the driver who has been drinking that an accident affects, it is all of the family and friends etc that it ends up affecting.
Lastly my thoughts go out to the friends and familys of the two people who have been mentioned in this post
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some of the motor bike taxis I have taken home late at night were as pissed as me!!! and more than one tuk tuk driver I have ridden with has stank of sangsom.
I personally woudn't get on the back of a borderline legal honda driven by someone with less road sense than me who believes they will be saved by someone who dosen't exist. (oops, bet that opens up a can of worms)
Tuk tuk's are the best option i suppose.
Try this one..... get your girl friend to order a tuk tuk and get a price then watch it go up 20 - 50 bht when the drives see's that its a ferrang who's riding in the back....ha ha ha. Ive had many an argument over that one and no it's not the money its the principal.
Stay as safe as you can...
I personally woudn't get on the back of a borderline legal honda driven by someone with less road sense than me who believes they will be saved by someone who dosen't exist. (oops, bet that opens up a can of worms)
Tuk tuk's are the best option i suppose.
Try this one..... get your girl friend to order a tuk tuk and get a price then watch it go up 20 - 50 bht when the drives see's that its a ferrang who's riding in the back....ha ha ha. Ive had many an argument over that one and no it's not the money its the principal.
Stay as safe as you can...
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Must agree with you about the motorbike taxis, have never owned one or ever had any thoughts of getting on the back of one for a ride or a taxi home.
The Tuk Tuks that I have been in have all been Ok, whether it be in HH, Phuket or Krabi, and would imagine that most of the expats live within a few kms of the city, so even cost should not come into it.
If you are in that much of a state, you will not probably even remember getting into the cab, let alone paying over the top for the fare.
When it comes down to it, no matter what is costs, if you are safe at home in one piece when you wake up, that is what matters, not the cost of the taxi home.
Must agree with you about the motorbike taxis, have never owned one or ever had any thoughts of getting on the back of one for a ride or a taxi home.
The Tuk Tuks that I have been in have all been Ok, whether it be in HH, Phuket or Krabi, and would imagine that most of the expats live within a few kms of the city, so even cost should not come into it.
If you are in that much of a state, you will not probably even remember getting into the cab, let alone paying over the top for the fare.
When it comes down to it, no matter what is costs, if you are safe at home in one piece when you wake up, that is what matters, not the cost of the taxi home.