Thai Chana app

[HHTel]

I don't even do that. A pause to have my temp taken then just walk in. Never been stopped in any of the shops and malls.
Irresponsible? Possibly. I've never seen any evidence that this system actually works. Even the developers say that it's not designed for 'track and trace' but to identify areas that could get congestion.

[hhinner]

It's certainly designed for tracing else why require a phone number?

[HHTel]

"The checked-in data will enable us to know places where people visit but we will not know who they are," he said. The data is used for displaying customer density at any given location.

Today, the Thai Chana platform does not ask for your mobile phone number when you check in. If you use the Thai Chana app, it will only ask for your mobile phone as part of the registration process.

"The Thai Chana app will collect data only when you check in and check out. It is a spot-checking app. It is not a contact tracing app," said Prinya Hom-anek, a cybersecurity specialist. He is also a member of a data governance committee for the Thai Chana platform.

"The app does not even ask for your name," said Somkid.

Krung Thai, the development team, have always maintained that it's not a track and trace application.

[hhinner]

"The app does not even ask for your name". But it does askl for a phone number. Maybe the phone number doesn't get sent at login, but if it does then it's contact information which can be used for tracing. Agreed it doesn't do tracking as such.

[huahin4ever]

"The app does not even ask for your name". But it does askl for a phone number. Maybe the phone number doesn't get sent at login, but if it does then it's contact information which can be used for tracing. Agreed it doesn't do tracking as such.

As far as I'm aware all phone numbers are now registered to a name. If it's yours that's another story. I know mine number is registered with my passport, so by submitting my number they will know my name and my address.

YNWA

[HHTel]

So use the platform rather than the app. If it was designed to track, then a phone number would be required both on the app and the platform. Calling for it on one and not the other doesn't make sense.

I will repeat that Krung Thai Bank have always maintained that it's only designed to highlight 'hot spots' and not able to track and trace.

The problem here is that nobody trust anyone. That's down to past infringements. There is no evidence that your data is being used other than what they say it is. Purely mistrust, which may or may not be warranted.

[Big Boy]

I will dispute that. There has always been an element of track and trace, but it was never called into play because of lack of local infection. As soon as there was an infection, Gov't cried foul because people were not using it as such. The entire app is a shamble, and in case I haven;t mentioned it yet it is not fit for purpose.

[HHTel]

Well we agree that Thai Chana is useless. But I will double down on the 'Track and Trace' element.

"I prefer to check in via Thai Chana platform rather than using the app because I don't know the consequence of using it. I don't want to take a risk,"

That mirrors your apprehension of using the app because it forced a download to your phone.

"The checked-in data will enable us to know places where people visit but we will not know who they are," he said. The data is used for displaying customer density at any given location.

'Virus tracking' which is different to 'people tracking'.

Give me a link that details any 'Track and Trace' facility. It's mentioned in opinions but I can't find anywhere that even hints that the app/platform has this facility. It's said that the app asks for a phone number at the time of registration whereas the platform doesn't. If it was designed for tracing then the phone number would have to go into both options.

[Big Boy]

Firstly, I have no apprehension downloading anything to my phone, providing I have asked for it, and I have the opportunity to check it out. I will not accept some random download from any website, just to continue with a tried and tested procedure. Anybody that does deserves all that is delivered to them.

Secondly, one of the big selling points of Thai Chana in the early days was that it would be able to tell you if you had come into contact with the virus, and would automatically message you. Presentation of that message would entitle you to a free Covid test.

Whatever Chinese whispers that have happened since to make anybody think otherwise are news to me, and I have seen nothing to rescind the original deal. It matters not to me anymore, because trying to force an unsolicited download on me has resulted in me joining the Micky Mouse and Adolf Hitler brigade and entering MY details onto the piece of paper as I enter each store.

[HHTel]

I've only based my comments on the information the developers have given. They wrote the software and if anyone knows of it's capabilities then they should. After all they wrote the damn thing.

The CCSA and other agencies have sold the idea of 'track and trace' but I've seen no evidence to back it up.

[Big Boy]

The CCSA and other agencies have sold the idea of 'track and trace' but I've seen no evidence to back it up.

There was nothing to back it up on. By the time there was something to back it up on, the entire thing had fallen into disrepute. From day 1 you could see Thai and Farangs devising ways to avoid it. It was written so loosely, it was never going to work without a lot of manual intervention/cooperation.

[handdrummer]

These days, I just walk in to a store, the robot takes my temp., sometimes from a meter away, I sign nothing and no one cares. My wife, however, is a law and order freak and smart phones her way in and out of every shop and fills out the online survey. By that time I'm well on my way to the next shop. None of this really matters, no one is going to hear a knock at the door and a police man demanding that you open up so he can take you away.

[hhinner]

So use the platform rather than the app. If it was designed to track, then a phone number would be required both on the app and the platform. Calling for it on one and not the other doesn't make sense.

I will repeat that Krung Thai Bank have always maintained that it's only designed to highlight 'hot spots' and not able to track and trace.

The problem here is that nobody trust anyone. That's down to past infringements. There is no evidence that your data is being used other than what they say it is. Purely mistrust, which may or may not be warranted.

I'm pretty sure that a phone number was required the first time I used the web platform. After that no need, unless using a private browser window, as the number was probably stored in a cookie. But I don't know if that is still the case because I always use the app.

[Big Boy]

Yes. that was certainly the case until yesterday.

[handdrummer]

My wife has a phone and she scans the app. I just go along for the ride. If I'm on my own, perish the thought, I make up a name and a number. Last week I was Muff Diver, Rudolph von Forkenspoon and Philly Joe Jones. That was my entertainment for the week.