You could call it the Nuthouse or the padded cell.
Good idea- there are plenty "nutters" on this forum! Why don't you just continue to do what you do best - ridicule or ban anyone who upsets your precious little small world?
You could call it the Nuthouse or the padded cell.
Good idea- there are plenty "nutters" on this forum! Why don't you just continue to do what you do best - ridicule or ban anyone who upsets your precious little small world?
Why don't you just continue to do what you do best - ridicule or ban anyone who upsets your precious little small world?
Personally I wouldn't go as far as banning people like you J, because the majority of the stuff is a great source of amusement for other members. Many of the conspiracy theory threads are addictive and hard to keep off, I've tried but failed to stop posting in them, and presumably the high posting/traffic numbers etc is good overall for the board.
But, and this is obviously only my personal opinion, your kind clearly need segregating from the general population and labelled appropriately so that people just browsing about Hua Hin or new members are reassured that the board and it's regulars are aware of your status.
Please don't take the above the wrong way, it is intended to ridicule and not meant with any degree of respect.
Maybe I'm being thick but I do not get your logic here Baa Baa. Are you suggesting that people whose agenda is to contaminate a small Thai holiday resort forum with their with conspiracy theory obsessions should actually be post their views and having their debates on the appropriate forum??? Wacky, far out suggestion there my friend, that could appear as logical to anyone with a degree of common sense
SJ
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You could call it the Nuthouse or the padded cell.
Good idea- there are plenty "nutters" on this forum! Why don't you just continue to do what you do best - ridicule or ban anyone who upsets your precious little small world?
No one was ever banned from here, as far as I can remember, for the subject matter of what they posted, they were banned for breaking the terms and conditions by getting into abusive arguments, 'flaming' or engaging in hate speech or whatever.
The reason that many conspiracy theories are given short shrift by many on here (including me at times) is because they're often completely implausible and ignore science and the known facts.
Some of the older ones such as the many surrounding 9/11 might have been raised relevant questions immediately after the attack, but now I can read accounts of what happened from a thousand different sources all of which basically describe the official account, it doesn't make any sense.
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Wanderlust wrote:BB,
I would have no problem with anything that was agreed on to be banned, but wording the Terms and Conditions would be a headache for admin, and might also lead to calls for other topics to be banned - just because you (and others) find the conspiracy topics boring does not mean others do. I don't particularly care for a number of topics that appear on here, but I just don't read them, and I suggest anyone who doesn't like conspiracy theories doesn't read those threads either. As my Mum always used to say when I complained there was nothing on television "There's always an 'off' button you know".
That's the whole point - I don't read them unless the forum is very slow. As most of current affairs is (was?) conspiricy theories, it was dead easy to avoid them.
Since you all seem to be so obsessed by the words "conspiracy theory" I'll share this with you:
When two or more people plan to commit a crime, there exists by definition a 'conspiracy'.
Therefore, any theory about who did it, or how it was done, is by definition a 'conspiracy theory'.
The question is then not whether you are a conspiracy theorist, but for which conspiracy theory you find the evidence most compelling.
That said, it would appear the majority of posters on here believe in the theory that whatever explanation is given by the authorities to any given event, it must never be questioned, and we all must accept the authorities version as truthful, no matter what evidence may exist to contradict the official explanation. Further, anyone who dares question the official version will be ostracized and silenced.
Perhaps you should put the above into the forums rules and regulations so as to warn any new poster what to expect!
JoeDoc wrote:That said, it would appear the majority of posters on here believe in the theory that whatever explanation is given by the authorities to any given event, it must never be questioned, and we all must accept the authorities version as truthful, no matter what evidence may exist to contradict the official explanation. Further, anyone who dares question the official version will be ostracized and silenced.
Far from it, It's just a case of everybody being bored to tears of it already, this board attracts more conspiracy theorists than it does people enquiring about Hotels.
It's just a case of everybody being bored to tears of it already, this board attracts more conspiracy theorists than it does people enquiring about Hotels.
That's about the top and bottom of it J, you sound like a broken record, one that broke on here about a year ago.
Why you don't persue your obsession on the relevant forums, instead of on a Thai beach resort forum, is something only you can resolve.
Enjoy the last couple of weeks of your stay, Zzzzzzzzzzz
We've all been there, done it and own one of these ......
Some of the comments made in this thread are disgraceful, arrogant and small minded. The Current Affairs section on the forum states this section is for “topics and discussion on the UK, US and global current affairs, politics, news and issues not relating to Thailand or Hua Hin”, but that’s really not the full story is it? Sure contributors are allowed to use the Current Affairs section to discuss any of these topics, but any new contributor should be warned opinions which are different to the small band of regular self appointed censors, “the lynch mob” can result in personal abuse, ridicule and name calling.
Super Joe wrote:
your kind clearly need segregating from the general population and labeled appropriately SJ
This statement reveals a lot about SJ. What would he suggest for a label - a yellow star?
Super Joe wrote:
“please don't take the above the wrong way, it is intended to ridicule and not meant with any degree of respect”
Which of course breaks forum rules but who gives a toss? Some members are allowed to intentionally disrespect and ridicule others and it’s called harmless banter. Any attempt to answer back is called flaming. SJ is obviously an untouchable on HHAD.
Super Joe wrote:
Why you don't persue your obsession on the relevant forums, instead of on a Thai beach resort forum,
If HHAD wants to keep the forum dedicated to topics relating to Hua Hin or Thailand, fair enough, but why have a Current Affairs section at all? After all, it appears the only contributions that are acceptable are views which are in line with day-to-day mainstream news feeds. Anyone who questions topics such as the real reasons for the US wars against oil rich Arab countries, the CIA’s involvement in drug running in Afghanistan, new evidence questioning the official version of 9/11, criticism of vaccines, the dangers of modern medicine and support for alternative medicine or any criticism of Israel’s brutality against Palestine will result in a torrent of personal attacks from a small group of regular contributors and the moderators turn a blind eye. It appears HHAD on the one hand wishes to have a Current Affairs section but only if the opinions of the contributor is acceptable to their undefined guidelines. Loosely translated, that means agree with our views of the world or F Off! Sorry to burst your bubble guys but thankfully, the views expressed by the majority of contributors in the HHAD Current Affairs section do not represent those of the Hua Hin community at large - and far beyond Hua Hin for that matter. You won’t find too many people disagreeing with you in the Current Affairs section though, because anyone with different views to the “the lynch mob’s” views is opening themselves up to intimidation and a lot of unnecessary unpleasantness. People tend to avoid unpleasantness therefore any meaningful debate is avoided and left only for the few regulars with their narrow views of the world. Anyone who stands their ground and argues back to them are ostracized and even banned because the moderators will not tolerate any retaliation. If that’s the way you want to run your forum then carry on as you are.
Super Joe wrote:I find there's little concrete or constructive that's worth adding to their debates, so just chirp in and mock them at any opportunity. I should not read it and abstain, but hey-ho it's all a bit of fun.
SJ
The records on the forum database will testify, and every regular contributor knows, the main champion dishing out abuse is SJ - the guy who admits he has no interest in the subject matter, but will use “any opportunity” (his words) to attack and mock any poster who has “controversial alternative” views to those of the small clique of regulars. His aim is to antagonize the contributor as much as possible, ridicule and make personal insults hoping the contributor will retaliate. This tactic stops any discussion, forces the thread to be closed and possibly the contributor, (who is being attacked), will be banned because he is not allowed to answer back.
With the knowledge he is supported by the moderators, this self appointed censor will decide if your contribution merits the label “conspiracy theorist” and all the tirade of abuse that’s allowed to be given to someone branded by that label. Like some demented private investigator, he will spend hours trolling the database to find any flaws in your opinions by using snippets of previous posts, then hold them up triumphantly using well-worn phrases such as “your like a broken record” “the website you quoted from is discredited” “you’re a hypocrite for quoting from mainstream” “a bunch of tin foil hat wearing whackjobs” “you are a hypocrite and your agenda has been exposed” “everyone knows you are a lunatic” “you and your kind are only looking for attention” “your posts are so boring “ “these type of people are sad” “you and your kind are fruit cakes” “you are a retard” …normally these words are followed by an insulting picture to give his abuse more impact. It’s like some sort of obsessive hobby for someone who has nothing better to do with their life. What sort of person takes pleasure from upsetting and mocking people? He advertises his business on this website but never seems to ask who the hell would want to do business with a person who uses the forum to have fun deliberately upsetting people.
But you have to feel sorry for this guy. To spend such an amount of time trolling the internet for the sole purpose of mocking people and disrupting threads shows a dangerous degree of instability and insecurity. The poor soul’s life must be so empty to have so much time on his hands - so the following small video clip is dedicated to the Mr. Untouchable of HHAD, the self proclaimed flamer who is proud to announce he has little concrete or constructive that's worth adding to debates, so just chirps in and mocks at any opportunity... (but hey-ho it's all a bit of fun)
STEVE G wrote:
Certainly some of these conspiracies such as those surrounding 9/11 can hardly be considered current any more.
Last week, when Khundon started the thread in the Current Affairs section titled “New 9/11 Pictures”, no one complained to Khundon that this topic was not current. It was only when posters expressed opinions others didn’t want to hear that the personal attacks started flooding in. It’s not the topics you have a problem with – its peoples opinions.
My advice to HHAD is to close down the Current Affairs section. If anyone has an opinion that their governments might not be acting in the best interest of the people, rather serving the needs of a few bankers and industrialists, if anyone thinks the US intelligence tell lies to justify wars, thinks man made global warming is a scam, thinks the AIDS fight in Africa might actually be mass sterilization programs and vaccine programs are a big con by pharmaceutical companies to earn them billions. If anyone is concerned how the west seems to be heading towards martial law and police states, questions the propaganda leading into a war with Iran or believes 9/11 was indeed an inside job to justify perpetual wars and erosion of civil liberties, the moderators on HHAD do not have the tolerance or maturity to allow people to speak their minds, but condone and endorse those who resort to ignorant name calling in order to alienate and shut people up.
To suggest these topics are irrelevant to today’s current affairs is nonsense. These topics I’ve mentioned are very current, very real and are very important having a great impact affecting everyone. People do have genuine concerns but HHAD has shown it is unable to moderate these topics fairly. Labeling anyone who wishes to discuss these subjects as “conspiracy theorists” and therefore (in your eyes), “lunatics” is both juvenile and ignorant.
Unless HHAD is prepared to grow up and recognize real debate on current affairs requires the ability to discuss things in a civilized manner without resorting to alienating people and name calling those with different views, you should remove the Current Affairs section, stick to what you do best and concentrate on running an otherwise excellent local informative forum.
and come on outside, there is a whole World out here and it's all real. 