Virtual driving licence launched next month

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Playstation to Launch Virtual Driving Lessons in Thailand

The technicians behind 'Oculus Rift', Playstation's VR headset, have announced plans to work closely with Thailand's Department of Land Transport this year to improve the nation's unenviable record as the most dangerous place in the world to drive, developing a course of VR lessons to obtain a Thai driving license.

2018 - Thailand lead the world in relation to deaths per capita on the road.

"Fewer people on the roads, means fewer accidents", remarked Mr. Sirichai Suchabang, CEO of Playstation, Thailand. "If we can take everyone learning to drive away from the road and into virtual reality, then there will be fewer deaths".

Questioned if virtual reality would be an adequate substitute for real world driving, Mr. Suchabang responded, "In virtual reality we can have a driver navigate through jungles in 4x4's, the amazon river in a canoe, the dinosaur age on the back of a unicorn. We can prepare them for any event they may find on the road".

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www.bangkokpost./themthereroads-bebad/.co.th


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Hiccup......


SMARTPHONE DRIVER LICENSE NOT ACCEPTED BY COPS


BANGKOK — If you’re stopped by traffic police, don’t whip out your phone and show them a digital driver’s license touted by transport officials just yet.

Police said Tuesday they would not recognize digital driver’s licenses until a legal amendment is in place. Failing to show physical driving ID will result in a fine per the current laws, Maj. Gen. Ekkalak Limsankart told reporters.

“The Royal Thai Police has already notified the Department of Land Transport and asked them to delay the use of digital driving licenses until legal amendments are completed,” Ekkalak said.

Ekkalak said a legal backing of the digital ID is included in drafts of amendment to the current traffic laws, which would be deliberated by the interim parliament on Thursday.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019 ... ed-by-cops
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PeteC wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:43 pm Hiccup......

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As HHTel said, just keep your license with ya. Nothings changed. Disregard all this virtual stuff. Somchai can't figure out level 3 of candy crush yet. When he gets to 'Soda Saga' then the whole world should worry.
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What a surprise! The Land Transport Dept issues a statement telling the public of changes applicable today, and the RTP says they don't accept it!

When, if ever, will two departments work from the same song sheet. No wonder we get confused!
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T.O.M. (on another thread post) wrote:Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:50 pm As for the anti-Thai sentiment here.....getting a little boring. And sadly becoming more and more frequent on those pages....Blame anyone but yourself...
You've made this kind of quote several times. Actions such as the above conflict of information is what generates anti-Thai sentiment. It's self inflicted.
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I've Actions such as the above conflict of information is what generates anti-Thai sentiment. It's self inflicted.

I've been reading the new Anand autobiography and it confirms what I've thought for several years. If something is simple and easy, Thais will make it complicated and difficult, tie themselves up in knots and not be able to think an idea through to fruition. The above, left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, driving license debacle is a classic example.
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A bit more on this. The last paragraph is good for a laugh! Too many bods driving around without a licence, so lets do away with them altogether.
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E-licences hit legal roadblock

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... recent_box

The Royal Thai Police (RTP) insisted on Tuesday that a physical driving licence is needed until the law is amended allowing a digital version to replace them, a process expected to take at least six months.

The new digital-driving licence roll-out ran into a legal hitch after it was found that Section 140 of the 1979 Land Transport Act requires traffic police to seize physical driving licences when offences are committed.

The RTP was responding to the Department of Land Transport's (DLT) launch of its newly developed digital driving licence app for smartphones on Tuesday.

Pol Maj Gen Ekkarak Limsangkat, deputy chief of the Police Education Bureau said the RTP agrees with the DLT's plan to adopt the new format and the RTP has drafted a law to validate the digital version.

Motorists are therefore advised to carry their paper licences until the law is amended, or else they may face an additional charge for failing to carry with them their physical driving licences when asked by the police to show them, he said.

Driving licences will become thing of the past too because the government has a plan to download driving licences in the ID card database, "This is so motorists will no longer have to carry their driving licences, either physical and digital versions," said the deputy chief.
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Nereus wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:56 am Driving licences will become thing of the past too because the government has a plan to download driving licences in the ID card database, "This is so motorists will no longer have to carry their driving licences, either physical and digital versions," said the deputy chief.
That will put a huge dent in the Hua Hin traffic police tea fund. :duck:
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^^ Not exactly doing away. It would mean including the right to drive (licence) in the ID card. Of course the police would then need a method whereby every cop could electronically read the ID card.
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Silo mentality slows progress

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opi ... s-progress

The Department of Land Transport (DLT) and the Royal Thai Police (RTP) this week, once again, have acted as if they do not actually work in the same country.

The DLT on Tuesday told motorists they can start using a digital version of their driving licence on their mobile phone, which will let them drive without having to carry the hard copy.

However, the RTP insisted that it does not recognise the digital version. Motorists remain completely baffled.
This is another case that clearly demonstrates how Thai state agencies seem to work in completely different silos.

The DLT has already launched a "smart" system to digitalise driving licences. Motorists can just download a smartphone app, DLT QR Licence, to display an electronic version of their licence.

The app also displays their real-time physical location and personal information such as blood type and medical coverage, useful in the event of a traffic accident.

More importantly, the DLT said, they can show the digital driving licence to traffic police when requested at checkpoints.
Without the cooperation of the police, the DLT's other plan to electronically link the system to the RTP's traffic violation tickets has to be halted for now.

Inefficiency, red tape, endless paperwork and a lack of integration among agencies whose work overlaps have made this and other government services a tiresome business for members of the public.

For instance, consumers have said that their product/service complaints filed with the Office of the Consumer Protection Board (OCPB) have made no progress if the cases overstep the jurisdiction of other agencies, such as the Food and Drug Administration.

The consumers have complained the OCPB just forwards such cases without following up on them or working with those agencies.

Bangkok residents are repeatedly inconvenienced, for example, when using City Hall's pedestrian bridges because the walkways are blocked by electricity poles built by the Metropolitan Electricity Authority.

Like their peers, both agencies failed to consult one another before embarking on their respective plans to build these structures.

Without the government providing any clear directives on this matter, or a cooperative framework being set up on an ad-hoc basis, most state agencies end up only focusing on enforcing the law within their own jurisdiction.

The RTP cited the 1979 Land Transport Act, which requires police to check the hard copies of drivers' licences, as grounds for not accepting the digital version.

Finally, Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith has proposed an amendment to the law. Approved during its first reading by the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) on Thursday, the bill recognises the digital driving licence and requires the DLT and RTP to jointly develop an electronic database to include motorists' personal details, previous traffic offences and vehicle registration.

The amendment will facilitate traffic police's work of recording new violations and deducting points from motorists who violate the traffic laws.

Police said it would take at least six more months for the law to take effect.

This, and many other hurdles that have made public services inefficient, can only be avoided if the government instructs all state agencies to work in concert and do away with their silo mentality for the sake of the public.
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DIGITAL DRIVER’S LICENSES LEGAL FROM SEPTEMBER
Drivers and motorcyclists will be allowed to pluck out their phones and show cops a digital driver’s license starting Sept. 20.

Physical licenses can be replaced with a digital copy when amendments to the Road Traffic Act become effective on Sept. 20, according to an internal police memo dated Aug. 19.

Valid replacements include digital licenses that can be obtained through the free DLT QR application, or physical photocopies. Police won’t recognize photos of licenses taken from a phone or camera though.

The police memo clarified earlier disagreements between police and transport officials over the validity of digital driver’s licenses.

On top of digitalization, the new law no longer allows cops to confiscate driver’s licenses when issuing traffic tickets, except when they believe the driver poses a danger to the public. It also allows traffic police to mail traffic tickets to offenders in the event that a ticket cannot be attached to a vehicle.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019 ... from-sept/
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Driving licences will become thing of the past too because the government has a plan to download driving licences in the ID card database, "This is so motorists will no longer have to carry their driving licences, either physical and digital versions," said the deputy chief
Wonder how this will fly for non Thais and what the solution is. Personally, this along with a few other issues like TM30 etc. could easily be solved by making the pink ID card for foreigners (with a few tweaks) more accessible ... like easy to get for anyone on a WP/non immigrant long term visa but is cancelled asap if you bail.
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