New Hua Hin cycling way

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New Hua Hin cycling way

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The new cycle way on road 2057 direction Mongkol temple.

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I have been using it a good while now. Dont think I have seen more than half a dozen using it at a push.
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And you'll notice in the picture, the only user is a M/BIKE not a cyclist!!
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A question that I'd like answered because I think I know the answer, but I'm not 100% sure. In the photo, it looks like a road junction. Who has the right of way?

In my opinion. 3 of the roads have a solid line, indicating stop; but traffic entering from the major road has a dotted line, giving them right of way. That was the way I was taught. Am I reading the road markings correctly (irrespective of what actually happens)? I'm a little confused reading the markings for traffic approaching from the left - a solid line, followed by a dotted line.

Irrespective of the markings, I think these bike lanes are a great idea.
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But the motorcyclist appears to be the postman so he is exempt! I could almost confuse Big Boy's post as an attempt to get responses as he as much as anyone knows the unwritten rules of junctions here. Just because there is a line it may not mean what you think... As a cyclist it is best to not argue with anything bigger or faster.
In regard to use of that lane is is one of the roads I avoid because it has a very long boring straight section. The cycle lane must make it a lot safer for cars as the road has been improved and will likely become a bit of a raceway. The small road going off either the junction pictured or one of them along that section is much more interesting and cuts across through a rubber plantation eventually joining the Pala U road although not really for road cyclists and last time I used it loose gravel had been laid on the surface along one stretch so it was not much fun on a trail bike either.
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My question was genuine. I often find myself turning left on these roads without checking what is coming from behind me on the cycle track.

As for unwritten rules, yes they exist, and many I understand despite crazy road markings. It is because of these unwritten rules, I'd like to know what they are at this type of junction. All questions are easy if you know the answer. On these junctions I don't.
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My own approach is that cyclists on the cycleway and vehicles coming from the small road should stop and give way to vehicles on the main road including vehicles turning off the main road. If I was driving on the main road my concern would be that despite indicating to turn, if I stopped to give way to cycles I would stand a good chance of being rear ended by the vehicle behind me.
Whenever I drive in the Netherlands I really have to concentrate to look out for and give way to cyclists at small junctions and roundabouts as they inevitably have the right of way. Worth noting in case the cyclist is a tourist from there or somewhere with similar rules and will not automatically think about stopping.
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That is what worries me. I'm normally crossing the cycle track before my mind switches to the fact it's a road. It always gives me a cold shiver of fear, thinking what I could have just done. Thankfully, these tracks aren't greatly used, yet.
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Here in Luxembourg, where cycle tracks cross roads without traffic lights, motorists have to treat them like pedestrian crossings and give way but seeing as the roads are full of bankers in Porsche's, it can be less likely to happen than in Thailand!
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A question that I'd like answered because I think I know the answer, but I'm not 100% sure. In the photo, it looks like a road junction. Who has the right of way?
It's simple; there is NO answer to this question! Ask 10 different people and get at least nine different answers.

The solid white line SHOULD mean that whatever comes up against it has to STOP. It is what is supposed to happen after stopping that cannot be answered.

The vehicle turning across the dotted line has right of way where I come from, and the vehicle stopped coming from the minor road is on a terminating road and therefore has to give way to ALL other traffic before proceeding WHEN it is safe to do so. If Thai rules included giving way to traffic on your RIGHT, then it would go some way towards reducing the confusion. It is no different to what occurs at a roundabout, ie: ME FIRST!

And then there is the question of just what is the cycleway? Is it a designated public road, or is it regarded as a footpath? Maybe ask "Big Joke" as he appears to be the Governments spokesperson, especially regarding pesky Farangs!
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