Did Covid Happen?

[pharvey]

I have to look at the disease in a different way, I already have a severe breathing problem now and in a mobility scooter, I was until covid started working in a job dealing with the general public, I had to give up work because of the danger of catching covid. Because the disease is still about I never meet anywhere indoors and only at a distance outside and cannot risk working.

Christ Lindos, I didn't realise - my heart goes out to you, seriously. As I mentioned, I've suffered, but I'm recovering and looking forward to getting back to work. Many are far worse off - including yourself it seems and I truly wish you the best.

There are plenty who have zero idea with regards to Covid, and simply believe it's a made-up disease - best of luck to them. I would hope they or their family don't suffer, but hey........

Anywho Lindos, I do hope things work out well for you and you're well on the road to recovery!!

[HuaHin61]

I intented to make clear, that there are good reasons for some people, not to believe the official announcements regarding vaccines and therefore to decide for themselves not to be vaccinated.

The attempts by politicians to prevent the unvaccinated from entering restaurants, bars, etc. through appropriate measures, compulsory masks, shows the attempt at group-related discrimination, and there were quite a few statements from fellow human beings (unfortunately also from doctors, politicians, celebrities) blaming the unvaccinated for possible transmission.

That this is not the case, and that even those who have been vaccinated once or several times can pass on infections in the same way has thankfully been scientifically proven and confirmed now.
https://norberthaering.de/news/rki-manipulation/

So the attempt by politicians and propaganda to blame those who have not been vaccinated for the situation shows at best ignorance, but possibly also intent on dividing society and exploiting this for political purposes.

the side effects of vaccination such as myocarditis, thrombosis, etc. are not insignificant
https://impfnebenwirkungen.net/ema/tabe ... alter.html

there were warnings about a massive increase in the number of patients with vaccination side effects from a health insurance manager, who was immediately fired from his job.
In the meantime, one of the largest statutory health insurance companies (TK) also admits a very high number of patients with side effects
https://reitschuster.de/post/knapp-440- ... ei-der-tk/

In a publicly accessible strategy paper by the German government, the media are instructed to spread panic and describe the worst case scenario in order to scare and unsettle people. (.pdf) Chapter 4 on page 13
"to achieve the desired shock effect . . ." "um die gewünschte Schockwirkung zu erreichen"
https://fragdenstaat.de/dokumente/4123- ... -bekommen/

[lindosfan1]

Thanks pharvey, if I watch what I do I am ok I have altered my lifestyle and got a brilliant Thai wlfe, still enjoyng life. I want to hear you are fit enogh this year I have friends in a similar situation so I know how you feel, you will get better.
I really get annoyed about pillocks like huahin61 with his stupid comments I would have kept quiet..

[pharvey]

Thanks pharvey, if I watch what I do I am ok I have altered my lifestyle and got a brilliant Thai wlfe, still enjoyng life. I want to hear you are fit enogh this year I have friends in a similar situation so I know how you feel, you will get better.
I really get annoyed about pillocks like huahin61 with his stupid comments I would have kept quiet..

Thankfully, our wives stick with us despite our failings !! Mate, ignore the likes of huahin61 - he (unlikely a she) is simply going for a wind-up and doesn't enjoy the life we have (regardless of health issues). The sad times are not ours.

For me, I'm hoping on getting back to work before years' end - and being a mechanical engineer (and "Petrol Head"), perhaps I could pop a flat 4 turbo in that scooter of yours - could make shopping a tad quicker!!

Truly all the best, and ignore the pricks

[HHTel]

HuaHin61:

You are nothing more than a cherry picker. Read your links and sources carefully, especially the disclaimers.

I will join others in ignoring you from here on in.

[Lost]

however, if anyone feels offended by my posts

There's no such thing as being offended by words. Particularly with words in their written form. There is only manipulation into believing you should feel offended. This peculiar make-believe Western phenomenon, constructed by the powers that be to get the commoners fighting amongst themselves, is having quite the revival in the 2020's.

Feeling offense has had cracking stock value in recent years. You can bet your bottom dollar all this is linked to monkeypox, too.

[pharvey]

however, if anyone feels offended by my posts

There's no such thing as being offended by words. Particularly with words in their written form. There is only manipulation into believing you should feel offended. This peculiar make-believe Western phenomenon, constructed by the powers that be to get the commoners fighting amongst themselves, is having quite the revival in the 2020's.

Feeling offense has had cracking stock value in recent years. You can bet your bottom dollar all this is linked to monkeypox, too.

Oh...... The other wind-up merchant!!

[Lost]

however, if anyone feels offended by my posts

There's no such thing as being offended by words. Particularly with words in their written form. There is only manipulation into believing you should feel offended. This peculiar make-believe Western phenomenon, constructed by the powers that be to get the commoners fighting amongst themselves, is having quite the revival in the 2020's.

Feeling offense has had cracking stock value in recent years. You can bet your bottom dollar all this is linked to monkeypox, too.

Oh...... The other wind-up merchant!!

[Robinhood]

HuaHin61 - The field at the back of my house is flat, so can I assume the world is flat?
Do you have any qualifications relevant to a covid vaccine debate? I'll take a silence as a no.

[STEVE G]

Getting vaccinated returned to me my social life and it got me back with my family in Thailand last year so good luck with trying to promote the value of not getting vaccinated!

[pharvey]

Getting vaccinated returned to me my social life and it got me back with my family in Thailand last year so good luck with trying to promote the value of not getting vaccinated!

Supposedly I'm up for a fourth, not sure when it will be (I'm guessing Winter with the annual Flu Jab), but I'll certainly not refuse it!!

[handdrummer]

HuaHin61 - The field at the back of my house is flat, so can I assume the world is flat?
Do you have any qualifications relevant to a covid vaccine debate? I'll take a silence as a no.

The world IS flat, if it wasn't people wouldn't keep going over the edge.

[handdrummer]

Getting vaccinated returned to me my social life and it got me back with my family in Thailand last year so good luck with trying to promote the value of not getting vaccinated!

Our youngest daughter has been vaccinated 3 times and last week a co-worker called her at home to tell my daughter that the co-worker had covid and she should get tested. She got tested and had covid and has spent the last week isolated in a friend's condo. Her sister brought her some Thai herbs from her acupuncturist and the symptoms were reduced in 3 days. After 5 days she tested negative.
Her fully vaccinated brother-in-law, with whom she shares a house, along with her sister, also has covid. So far our eldest daughter hasn't caught it.
They all live in Bangkok so we don't have frequent contact with them.
Maybe it would have been worse without the vaccine. No way to know. At any rate, they're all healthy and were able to deal with it the vaccines and illness.
Both daughters spent two days in bed after the first vaccine and their periods were disrupted for a few months.

[pharvey]

When in the world will people grasp the simple fact that being vaccinated doesn't stop you carrying the (Chinese made) disease? Being vaccinated simply means you don't suffer (severely) the symptoms and do not have to be hospitalised and thus put further stress on the system.

I'm sick to death of the pricks in the UK (for me, but elsewhere for others) who spout their garbage and have put the NHS (UK) in a dire position, doctors and nurses under huge pressure, patients waiting for operations only to be put further back, some suffering from cancer for example now terminal when quite frankly they could have recovered (or at least survived). Just be in the knowledge that you bastards will meet your maker one day, and receive your just deserts. I just wish I could see it

Pretty sure it's the same in all countries regardless of what you believe. There are twunts everywhere.

[HuaHin61]

Getting vaccinated returned to me my social life and it got me back with my family in Thailand last year so good luck with trying to promote the value of not getting vaccinated!

Our youngest daughter has been vaccinated 3 times and last week a co-worker called her at home to tell my daughter that the co-worker had covid and she should get tested. She got tested and had covid and has spent the last week isolated in a friend's condo. Her sister brought her some Thai herbs from her acupuncturist and the symptoms were reduced in 3 days. After 5 days she tested negative.
Her fully vaccinated brother-in-law, with whom she shares a house, along with her sister, also has covid. So far our eldest daughter hasn't caught it.
They all live in Bangkok so we don't have frequent contact with them.
Maybe it would have been worse without the vaccine. No way to know. At any rate, they're all healthy and were able to deal with it the vaccines and illness.
Both daughters spent two days in bed after the first vaccine and their periods were disrupted for a few months.

handdrummer confirms exactly what I had already written here:
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=39851&start=3015#p564740

my experience:
in the company where I work, about 80% are vaccinated, the brave rest have not yet been vaccinated,
and now it shows:
The vaccinated had 2-5 days of absence immediately after the vaccination due to side effects of the vaccination, and were usually at least 2x, sometimes 3x, already allegedly ill with Covid19.
the unvaccinated, on the other hand, have either not noticed anything (without symptoms) or have not yet become ill.
Conclusion: Vaccinated people get sick repeatedly, so vaccination can neither be helpful nor healthy.