Thai spellings of street names

[thecolonel]

Did I read this week that the almost defunct Poolsuk Plaza has been revamped & re-branded..? Maybe now goes under the title 'Hua Hin beach Club.'.? The snippet I saw it was gonna cater for a broad range of folk...kids club, yoga/aerobics, then maybe beers after dark..? Any more news about this..??

I've always known it as Poonsuk...

Think Google maps agrees

I(we) could be wrong tho, does the sign outside say Pool or Poon?

Mind you, even that could be spelt wrong!

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[Big Boy]

I think we're down to Western/Thai pronunciation e.g. I go to watch the football, Thais go to watch the footbun. So I'd say neither was wrong.

[thecolonel]

I think we're down to Western/Thai pronunciation e.g. I go to watch the football, Thais go to watch the footbun. So I'd say neither was wrong.

No I don't think it's pronunciation in this case

I think the sign on the street(Soi name) says Poonsuk too

Also they are promoting themselves as Poonsuk(below)

Plus Google maps

Plus sign on building (photo to follow)

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[thecolonel]

Building name sign

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[Dannie Boy]

I doubt many people will lose much sleep over whether it’s an L or an N.

[Bamboo Grove]

In Thai language l-letter at the end of a syllable is pronounced as "n". So even though it is spelled poolsuk, it is pronounced poonsuk.

[thecolonel]

In Thai language l-letter at the end of a syllable is pronounced as "n". So even though it is spelled poolsuk, it is pronounced poonsuk.

Thanks, good to know

But all(4) indications are it's spelled Poon

So from a Thai language learning perspective my question would then be should it then be 'pronounced' Pool Suk?

As in Kaeng Krachan(Gang Gachan)

Keaw ('Gell' not Jell) =glass

Do the L and N swap pronunciations?

Thanks again

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[Bamboo Grove]

Thai phonology dictates that all syllables must end in a vowel, an approximant, a nasal, or a voiceless plosive. Therefore, the letter written may not have the same pronunciation in the initial position as they do in the final position.

There is an alphabet list at the end of the page with pronunciation system in different postitions for each of the alphabets.

Also the letter "r" is pronounced as "n" if it is the last letter of a syllable so for example การ the "r" is pronounced "n": kaan, not kaar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_script

[HHTel]

As in Kaeng Krachan(Gang Gachan)

That's not the way my Thai family pronounce it. 'Geng' 'Krachan' - definite 'K' sound and 'r' sound but weak.

Local dialects obviously have some significance. I know 'R' at the beginning of a word often changes to 'L' and an 'L' at the end becomes an 'N'!!
See what they call you if your name is Rachel.... lol

I believe the reason the letter 'R' becomes an 'L' is that a thai 'r' is what we would call a 'rolling R' which brings it closer to an 'L' and it's easier to pronounce the 'L' rather than the 'rolling R'.

N.B. I'm in no way knowledgeable in Thai language. I only know what I've picked up along the way.

[thecolonel]

Sorry yes Geng not Gang

The one that always gets me is.....

Lussia, Lussia!



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[caller]

I thought the G sound such as in Kuiburi, is somewere between a G and K and not an outright replacement.

[Scout]

I thought the G sound such as in Kuiburi, is somewere between a G and K and not an outright replacement.

Thai language / alphabet has both “g” and “k” consonants and separate sounds. My Thai language teacher(s) will correct you if you mix them up. They also explain that it’s mainly a difference in levels of education when you encounter Thais that mix them up. A perfect example is the name of the city Ganjanaburi (how it should have been spelled in English) versus Kanchanaburi (how it is incorrectly spelled on English language street signs and maps).

[VincentD]

Which is why I say, learn the language - written and spoken - to a decent proficiency, and practice, practice, practice. And not in the bars and clubs either..

[thecolonel]

Re L and N...

I've just remembered that the number 1 ranked female golfer in Thailand is a terrific young lady by the name of Atthaya Thitikul.

She was actually briefly ranked no. 1 in the world about 8 months ago in her first season on the LPGA tour and aged only 19... Incredible!!

But of course, somewhat understandably the American and Euro golf TV commentators call her 'Thiti - kool'

But it is in fact correctly pronounced 'Titty-khun'

Absolute superstar!

So it looks like the L and N are interchangeable

As it's certainly spelled Soi Poonsuk but pronounced Pool Suk

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[joelle]

Re L and N...

I've just remembered that the number 1 ranked female golfer in Thailand is a terrific young lady by the name of Atthaya Thitikul.

She was actually briefly ranked no. 1 in the world about 8 months ago in her first season on the LPGA tour and aged only 19... Incredible!!

But of course, somewhat understandably the American and Euro golf TV commentators call her 'Thiti - kool'

But it is in fact correctly pronounced 'Titty-khun'

Absolute superstar!

So it looks like the L and N are interchangeable

As it's certainly spelled Soi Poonsuk but pronounced Pool Suk

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Actually it is spelled Pool Suck and pronounced Poon Suck
Underlined in red is an L