The land of NO U-turns!!
This thread is about the lack of U turns and I can't see any coming from WL or F!
Let's face it - we all want the same thing and nothing will get done by quarrelling amongst ourselves.
A good idea might be to ask the chief of police if there was anything 'we' could do to help with road safety. Perhaps traffic lights are needed at some crucial spot somewhere, but there is a lack of government funds needed to install them. If 'we' were seen to be raising money to pay for something like this (that effectively helps road safety) I think we would be taken more seriously.
I feel a formal road safety association should be formed, made up of motivated people with a common goal to help improve... road safety. I think that might be the most effective way to influence better... road safety and hopefully save lives. I think this could work, particularly if the association focused less on critisising police and motorists, and concentrated more on raising funds to pay for improvements to road safety, and education in schools.
Let's face it - we all want the same thing and nothing will get done by quarrelling amongst ourselves.
A good idea might be to ask the chief of police if there was anything 'we' could do to help with road safety. Perhaps traffic lights are needed at some crucial spot somewhere, but there is a lack of government funds needed to install them. If 'we' were seen to be raising money to pay for something like this (that effectively helps road safety) I think we would be taken more seriously.
I feel a formal road safety association should be formed, made up of motivated people with a common goal to help improve... road safety. I think that might be the most effective way to influence better... road safety and hopefully save lives. I think this could work, particularly if the association focused less on critisising police and motorists, and concentrated more on raising funds to pay for improvements to road safety, and education in schools.
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In theory it's a great idea but one has to be wary of being seen as using money to influence Thai decisions. Plus would the money go where it's meant to go?Jockey wrote:This thread is about the lack of U turns and I can't see any coming from WL or F!
Let's face it - we all want the same thing and nothing will get done by quarrelling amongst ourselves.
A good idea might be to ask the chief of police if there was anything 'we' could do to help with road safety. Perhaps traffic lights are needed at some crucial spot somewhere, but there is a lack of government funds needed to install them. If 'we' were seen to be raising money to pay for something like this (that effectively helps road safety) I think we would be taken more seriously.
I feel a formal road safety association should be formed, made up of motivated people with a common goal to help improve... road safety. I think that might be the most effective way to influence better... road safety and hopefully save lives. I think this could work, particularly if the association focused less on critisising police and motorists, and concentrated more on raising funds to pay for improvements to road safety, and education in schools.
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I apologise that this thread has been sidetracked from it's original intent, and I don't intend to do so anymore. The real problem regarding any issues that we think matter is that the Thai voters, by and large, don't share our view, whether it is because of being unaware, uneducated or uncaring; it may also be because even issues that are close to the average Thais heart are also ignored or dismissed as there is no money in it for those in power, so combined with the general Thai way of not challenging authority, nothing gets done, and no challenge is made; too much risk of losing face on both sides.
In the grand scheme of things, having to drive an extra kilometre or two to do a u-turn is not really a big deal, but the principle about how the decision (or lack thereof) was made to cause this to happen is the issue. I hope that the letters that get sent to the Hua Hin Mirror are passed on, read and acted on by those who receive them, and that there are no repercussions to the Mirror because of that. I hope also that the people who have been the most vociferous on the issue of this thread are the ones who send the letters and are not afraid to put their names and addresses on them, as I fear anonymous letters will not have much impact, not that I think much will happen anyway.
My opinion is that for farangs' concerns (in general) to be quelled will take several years, a change in how Thais see the world and a huge increase in taxes to pay for the necessary extra staff or infrastructures, which will actually be part of destroying the Thailand that we love, and turn it into the countries we left behind. Is that what we really want?
In the grand scheme of things, having to drive an extra kilometre or two to do a u-turn is not really a big deal, but the principle about how the decision (or lack thereof) was made to cause this to happen is the issue. I hope that the letters that get sent to the Hua Hin Mirror are passed on, read and acted on by those who receive them, and that there are no repercussions to the Mirror because of that. I hope also that the people who have been the most vociferous on the issue of this thread are the ones who send the letters and are not afraid to put their names and addresses on them, as I fear anonymous letters will not have much impact, not that I think much will happen anyway.
My opinion is that for farangs' concerns (in general) to be quelled will take several years, a change in how Thais see the world and a huge increase in taxes to pay for the necessary extra staff or infrastructures, which will actually be part of destroying the Thailand that we love, and turn it into the countries we left behind. Is that what we really want?
WL - this post could be the beginnings of a book!Wanderlust wrote:I apologise that this thread has been sidetracked from it's original intent, and I don't intend to do so anymore. The real problem regarding any issues that we think matter is that the Thai voters, by and large, don't share our view, whether it is because of being unaware, uneducated or uncaring; it may also be because even issues that are close to the average Thais heart are also ignored or dismissed as there is no money in it for those in power, so combined with the general Thai way of not challenging authority, nothing gets done, and no challenge is made; too much risk of losing face on both sides.
In the grand scheme of things, having to drive an extra kilometre or two to do a u-turn is not really a big deal, but the principle about how the decision (or lack thereof) was made to cause this to happen is the issue. I hope that the letters that get sent to the Hua Hin Mirror are passed on, read and acted on by those who receive them, and that there are no repercussions to the Mirror because of that. I hope also that the people who have been the most vociferous on the issue of this thread are the ones who send the letters and are not afraid to put their names and addresses on them, as I fear anonymous letters will not have much impact, not that I think much will happen anyway.
My opinion is that for farangs' concerns (in general) to be quelled will take several years, a change in how Thais see the world and a huge increase in taxes to pay for the necessary extra staff or infrastructures, which will actually be part of destroying the Thailand that we love, and turn it into the countries we left behind. Is that what we really want?
Sorry for returning to the off topic topic, but having read ALL the questions and answers in the Phuket Gazette for the past year, I can tell you that they are anything but controversial.
They are perfectly reasonable questions asked in a polite manner, with equally polite and sometimes informative answers.
The respondees actually seem to be pleased to be asked the questions and offer telephone numbers etc for others with the same problem.
If the Hua Hin Mirror becomes as controversial as the Phuket Gazette, we, they and the good people of Hua Hin have nothing to worry about.
Now back to the U turns......
They are perfectly reasonable questions asked in a polite manner, with equally polite and sometimes informative answers.
The respondees actually seem to be pleased to be asked the questions and offer telephone numbers etc for others with the same problem.
If the Hua Hin Mirror becomes as controversial as the Phuket Gazette, we, they and the good people of Hua Hin have nothing to worry about.
Now back to the U turns......
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. Now,Wanderlust wrote:I apologise that this thread has been sidetracked from it's original intent, and I don't intend to do so anymore. The real problem regarding any issues that we think matter is that the Thai voters, by and large, don't share our view, whether it is because of being unaware, uneducated or uncaring; it may also be because even issues that are close to the average Thais heart are also ignored or dismissed as there is no money in it for those in power, so combined with the general Thai way of not challenging authority, nothing gets done, and no challenge is made; too much risk of losing face on both sides.
In the grand scheme of things, having to drive an extra kilometre or two to do a u-turn is not really a big deal, but the principle about how the decision (or lack thereof) was made to cause this to happen is the issue. I hope that the letters that get sent to the Hua Hin Mirror are passed on, read and acted on by those who receive them, and that there are no repercussions to the Mirror because of that. I hope also that the people who have been the most vociferous on the issue of this thread are the ones who send the letters and are not afraid to put their names and addresses on them, as I fear anonymous letters will not have much impact, not that I think much will happen anyway.
My opinion is that for farangs' concerns (in general) to be quelled will take several years, a change in how Thais see the world and a huge increase in taxes to pay for the necessary extra staff or infrastructures, which will actually be part of destroying the Thailand that we love, and turn it into the countries we left behind. Is that what we really want?
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