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New Promonade, removal of illegal resturants and piers

Post by lockwood74 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:54 am

I had read some information months ago about plans to develop the area in Hua Hin that is currently occupied by resturants and piers that sprawl out on to the sea.

Wouldnt it be a diferent experience, being able to walk along the front and see the view !!!

I am not sure when this development will take place or when or even if it will take place. I am interested to know the future of Hua Hin and take a keen interest in its development

Any postings would be most interesting

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Post by lomuamart » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:45 am

This scenario seems to raise its head every year.
I believe that most of the businesses are squatting, so there's probably some legal method to get rid of them.
However, they are owned by some pretty powerful politicians and military types, which is the main reason nothing's ever been done about it.Whether it would be good for HH is a separate issue. On the one hand it would certainly clean the area up no end, but on the other, town would lose more of its original "wooden building" charm and there's precious little of that left now.

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Post by SHADOW » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:07 am

I heard a rumor that the final court date is this month to rule on compansation and what fines will be levid if any.

It would be nice to see the sea, but if it does happen expect a year of destruction and noise.
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Post by JW » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:01 am

I ate at Sangthai a few nights ago and they said that will lose the property on the roadside at the end of the month, and the whole show in 3 years time. So they will still be there for a while but it sounded like that was the deal. You wonder where they will go, soe of these restaurants are very good and have been around for a long time.

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Post by tuktukmike » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:28 am

It seems such a shame that they are going to rip the heart out of Hua Hin.

How long before the Bintabaht becomes just a soi full of guest houses and hotels.

Hua Hin attracts people for its charm and laid back life styly but this looks to be changing very fast.

But the strange question is who is behind all the changes and why would anyone want to, is it really progress.

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Post by chelsea » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:15 am

We ate at some of the places on the pier and found them to be very good and a great place to eat and drink in the early evening.
Instead of ripping them down, why not plough some cash into upgrading them slightly and making them a bit tidier.
In earlier posts, members were refering to to lack of places there are in HH where you can eat and drink around the beach front areas. If these are all pulled down, you will basically have no where at all to do either of those things.
I was in Koh Lanta a few years ago and visited th old town where the old fishing village is, and they have the same sort of thing as you have in HH (albiet on a smaller scale), if they can operate and survive amongst the locals, what is the difference in HH
Everywhere else in the world, people love to eat and drink on the waterfront. Rather than attract more tourists, if they are pulled down and replaced with a walkway, I think that it will turn tourists away from that area of the town.
Upgrade what you have and leave what people see as the old world charm of HH remain.
There is a wide enough beach for people to walk on if the want to walk by the water without having to put a concrete pathway through the area to be able to do so.

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Post by JW » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:44 am

It would make sense to invest in some of these places, to make them more friendly to the environment they do pollute the sea and beach. Surely it isnt that difficult to get rid of the waste in a less damaging way. I think that the deal is done now and they will have to relocate - -but as some have said it really wont be the same.

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Post by chelsea » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:12 pm

JW, I agree about the pollution, but I am sure they can find away around that, to please all the people that complain about. At present, the only places now that you will be able to eat on the waterfront is at the 4/5 star properties that really do not try and entice diners other than their guests into their properties.
We had a post only a few weeks ago regarding this very matter, so as it seems now, you normal run of the mill tourists will not have any reasonably priced places to eat on the waterfront.
Myself, I cannot see anything other than more 4/5 star hotels being put up in that position. It will be a shame, because as good as a lot of the eating places are in town, you cannot beat eating and drinking on the waterfront.

I did find one really good bar near the waterfront in the same street as the Hilton called Monsoon, but as smartly decorated and well run as it was, there never seemed to be a lot of people in there. It was not dear in price and was one of the smartest that I found in the town. It always amazed me that not a lot of people went in there.
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Post by sam » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:09 pm

Hi Chelsea, we looked at Monsoon but were put of because it was always empty. Is it good? If yes we will give it a try at xmas. :cheers:

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Post by chelsea » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:37 pm

I originally went in there while I was out with my girlfriend as it was very smart, we ate and drank in there and had no problems. Food was good and the drinks were no dearer than a lot of the other places around the area.
The only down side was the lack of people in there the times that we went in.
Perhaps the smart appearance of the bar makes people think that it is a lot dearer in there than it is.
Give it a try, I would be inerested to see what you think.
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Post by Jaime » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:15 pm

I would be worried about the form that any promenade would take. It is likely to be a monolithic concrete structure, which they seem to love in LoS because its cheap. I hope they don't do something stupid like erect ridiculous concrete figures on the beach. Anyone been to Peuk Tian, near Cha-Am and seen the crumbling examples there? You find these at various other places around the Thai coast and they always look tacky as hell to me. The local idea of 'charm' can be quite different from that of the farang.
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Post by Guess » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:37 am

All this discussion about certain places being knocked down and other places being changed from girlie bar streets to restaurants has been going on for at least six years.

What has really happened is that the police have dictaded that all bars have to shut at midnight, with of course the exception of the Hilton Hotel.

Now the Kings Birthday has passed the bars have now been approached with request to supply them with 500 baht per month so that they can open until two again.
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Post by Norseman » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:13 am

Guess wrote: Now the Kings Birthday has passed the bars have now been approached with request to supply them with 500 baht per month so that they can open until two again.
Sieg Heil to the men in brown!!!

What do you think happens if they don't pay but stay open until 2am?
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Post by JW » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:23 am

Same every year with the cops, i aint paying them a bean. Stopped last year after about 4 months and nothing happened. I hope others adopt thisattitude, the money is irrelevant, but things will not move forward if we keep paying bribe money.

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Post by philip » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:26 pm

Ooops ! A whole new topic emerging here ! :shock:

Anyway, everywhere in the developed world, "entrepreneurs" (remember George W Bush's amazing comment : "the trouble with these Frenchies is they ain't got a word for entrepreneur" !) have plans to develop property, with the same objective - nope, not "improving the environment", restoring the sea-view, or any such euphemism, but TO MAKE MONEY. Gosh, quel surprise ! Who-ever is behind this initiative will have realised that the if the legal tenure of the properties along the front, is on a shaky nail, and if they can be ousted, regardless of upset or inconvenience to the occupiers or how much most of us appreciate the existing character of the place, they will endeavour to do so, to earn the proverbial buck. :twisted:

I just love the idea of upgrading sanitation etc to preserve the present waterfront, but if there's money to be made and pockets to be lined, there's little hope of preserving the status quo. The value of this land is simply based on the end value of the new development, less the cost of new building, fees, interest and profit. If that value exceeds the existing use value of the properties, then they will surely be redeveloped, in time.

We live in a material world, even in Hua-Hin.... :cry:

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