Thailand's imported wine crackdown

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by aragon » Fri May 04, 2018 8:09 pm

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Expensive wine........a deterrent. Then they have more issues than just Thailand's tax structure.

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I don't think it is just the expensive wine, unfortunately that is just one item of many and is symptomatic of the general increase in the cost of living in Thailand and HH in particular, which as we all know is among the most expensive places to live in LOS :(
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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Vital Spark » Fri May 04, 2018 11:07 pm

^I agree with aragon. It's not just the wine, or a whine about the price of wine. It's being able to buy those little treats at a reasonable price.

Yes, I can certainly live without wine, but I like to have a box of drinkable stuff for the odd occasion when a glass of red just hits the spot. The best on the market at the moment (if you can find it) is Robertson Winery which is a South African dry red. Infinitely better than Mont Clair.

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by hhinner » Fri May 04, 2018 11:19 pm

Mont Claire, I believe Siam Wineries used to import the grape juice in bulk and go from there. No idea what they do these days.

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Nereus » Sat May 05, 2018 10:42 am

My insider says he does not know the details, but basically the "Fruit Wines" are now taxed at the same rate as what he terms "regular wines". Thai logic suggests that if it comes from Farang Land, and says "wine" on the box, then it must be worthy of more tax. :twisted:
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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Big Boy » Sat May 05, 2018 10:57 am

I've just come back from Makro, Hua Hin. They have loads of boxed Mont Claire, but 2 varieties (don't drink, so no idea what the difference is) Claret and Green box markings. Exactly the same as Tesco, 999 Baht for a 3 litre box.
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Post by hhinner » Sat May 05, 2018 11:08 am

Nereus wrote:My insider says he does not know the details, but basically the "Fruit Wines" are now taxed at the same rate as what he terms "regular wines". Thai logic suggests that if it comes from Farang Land, and says "wine" on the box, then it must be worthy of more tax. :twisted:
Wine taxes are now based on alcoholic content irrespective of fruit. Mont Claire isn't from Farang Land and is being taxed quite heavily by the look of it. Proper (not "fruit" wine) imported wines don't seem to have gone up in price very much (yet?), presumably because they were already taxed so much anyway.

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Nereus » Sat May 05, 2018 11:49 am

No idea, and as I don't drink, not affected. But there are many contradictory reports in a previous thread:

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Nereus » Sat May 05, 2018 1:00 pm

The following link is also in the older thread:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... e-in-b12bn

New excise taxes set to rake in B12bn


17 Sep 2017 at 04:00
4,543 viewed1 comments NEWSPAPER SECTION: NEWS | WRITER: WICHIT CHANTANUSORNSIRI & ASSAWIN PAKKAWAN - ...

Sugary drinks, cigarettes and most alcoholic beverages saw hiked excise taxes as the new rates of the levy came into force yesterday.
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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by J.J.B. » Sat May 05, 2018 1:41 pm

Big Boy wrote:
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I've just come back from Makro, Hua Hin. They have loads of boxed Mont Claire, but 2 varieties (don't drink, so no idea what the difference is) Claret and Green box markings. Exactly the same as Tesco, 999 Baht for a 3 litre box.
The colours denote red and white ‘wine’ respectively.

I’ve always preferred Peter Vella to Mont Claire, although I imagine it has suffered the same fate. May have to take in more Blend 285 to get through the evening!
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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Ratsima » Sat May 05, 2018 4:56 pm

LOW PRICED FRUIT WINE? NOT MUCH LONGER

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by handdrummer » Sat May 05, 2018 6:49 pm

If you find an inexpensive wine buy a case. Buy wine's on sale by the case.

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by buksida » Mon May 14, 2018 9:55 am

Looks like the vino is flowing in again, VIlla Market were fully stocked with two litre bottles of wines at the weekend. The boxed stuff is there also but very expensive now and inferior to what you'll get in a bottle.
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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Dannie Boy » Mon May 14, 2018 10:01 am

I bought a 1.5l bottle of Australian red called Laughing Bird from Makro 2 days ago, it was a mixture of Cabernet and Merlot grapes and whilst not the best wine I have ever had, not bad for 469 Baht

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by Ratsima » Mon May 14, 2018 10:17 am

OK, if I'm going to start buying real grape wine in bottles, I'm gonna need some recommendations. At the new price of about 1000 baht for a 3 liter box, the MontClair "wine" is the equivalent 250 baht per 750ml bottle.

Are there any decent all-grape wines that come close to that?

(I see that Tesco sells the Laughing Bird Dry Red 1.5 liter bottle for 419 baht, online.)

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Re: Thailand's imported wine crackdown

Post by buksida » Mon May 14, 2018 10:28 am

There is an Italian red called 'Rosso' which comes in a 2 litre bottle @ 599 baht. This, while admittedly not the best wine, is far superior to anything I've tried out of a box - at least to my palate.
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