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Re: Tourist Slump Continues

Post by Korkenzieher » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:14 pm

Steve G's article is the first real comment I have seen from tourist sources that makes sense. Of course, tourist numbers may be up over the last few years, but it is basically replacing European package / resort tourists with Asians for whom the existing tourist infrastructure is largely irrelevant. Clearly that has an impact on jobs on the ground. Anyone any figures for that? It has always seemed to me that jobs figures quoted officially for the sector, really only relate to resort and western style hotels.
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Post by pdm3547 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:39 am

theprice01 wrote:Thai airways are even double what some other carriers charge, not direct to lhr but would happily have a stop-over to save 25,000 bahts +
Eva are direct, if you are talking about the LHR-BKK route

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Post by joelle » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:00 am

I have looked on Eva the prices from bkk to paris for May / June and the other way round and the prices are definitely not cheaper at all on the contrary, no direct flight and long stopover

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Post by theprice01 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:52 am

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theprice01 wrote:Thai airways are even double what some other carriers charge, not direct to lhr but would happily have a stop-over to save 25,000 bahts +
Eva are direct, if you are talking about the LHR-BKK route

I'v never fancied Eva, but will compare there prices with BA, looking at going for a month around march
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Post by Bristolian » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:54 am

joelle wrote:I have looked on Eva the prices from bkk to paris for May / June and the other way round and the prices are definitely not cheaper at all on the contrary, no direct flight and long stopover
You must be looking at something wrong. There are only 3 airlines that fly direct BKK - LHR. EVA use BKK as their stopover enroute to LHR. Definately a direct flight from BKK with no stopovers.
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Post by Pagey » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:28 am

Bristolian, Joelle is flying to Paris, not LHR
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Post by Bristolian » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:33 am

joelle, I apologise. I must take more care in reading posts :oops: :cheers:
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Post by buksida » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:40 am

:offtopic: This topic is about tourism in Thailand, not flights to Paris! We have an entire section on flights and airlines.
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Post by oakdale160 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:30 pm

OK, back on topic. Although it is being discussed on another thread, the point needs to be raised. The recent murders of British tourists added to other similar events in the past is likely to label Thai as unsafe.
Added to this the 'blame the victims' remarks cannot help.

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Post by STEVE G » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:36 pm

Korkenzieher wrote:Steve G's article is the first real comment I have seen from tourist sources that makes sense. Of course, tourist numbers may be up over the last few years, but it is basically replacing European package / resort tourists with Asians for whom the existing tourist infrastructure is largely irrelevant. Clearly that has an impact on jobs on the ground. Anyone any figures for that? It has always seemed to me that jobs figures quoted officially for the sector, really only relate to resort and western style hotels.
What I thought a bit odd about that article was that it suggests that the Tourism Authority budget was linked to tourism numbers whereas surely it should be the inverse, in other words the budget needs to be increased if the numbers go down to attract people, not up if they're already coming.

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Post by richard » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:37 pm

You've only got to ask around. Condo reception,tuk tuk/mc drivers, corner shop, bars, restaurants all tell me it's worse than last year.
International media is also painting a gloomy picture to would be travellers
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Post by Dannie Boy » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:04 pm

If you look at the UK FCO website it gives the following summary regarding visiting Thailand - I guess many people will be put off by this and look elsewhere to spend their vacation.

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Still current at: 18 September 2014
Updated: 15 September 2014
Latest update: Summary – death of 2 British nationals on 15 September on the island of Koh Tao

Over 800,000 British nationals visit Thailand every year. Most visits are trouble-free, but incidents of crime (sometimes violent) can affect visitors. The FCO is aware of the death of 2 British nationals on 15 September on the island of Koh Tao in the Gulf of Thailand. See Crime

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all but essential travel to the provinces of Pattani, Yala, Narathiwat and Songkhla on the Thai-Malaysia border. On 10 April 2014 the Australian authorities indicated that extremists may be planning to target westerners in the southern border provinces. See Terrorism

The FCO advise against all travel to the Preah Vihear (Khaoi Pra Viharn in Thai) temple area and the Ta Krabey/Ta Moan temple area located on the Thai-Cambodian border due to the presence of troops in the area and the risk of outbreaks of fighting. See Cambodian border

On 22 May the Chief of the Royal Thai Army announced that the military had taken control of government. Martial law is in place and provides an enabling framework for the Royal Thai Army to take action it deems necessary to enforce law and order. Instructions can change rapidly. An information desk is available at Bangkok International Airport.

A curfew was imposed on 22 May. It was lifted in all parts of the country on 13 June.

A number of media outlets have been taken off air and some internet sites have been blocked. It’s illegal to criticise the coup and you should be wary of making political statements in public. You should monitor local news and social media for developments.

Over recent months there have been large-scale planned demonstrations, and spontaneous protests, in Bangkok and other cities. Some of these have turned violent. You should avoid any protests, political gatherings, demonstrations or marches.

Before travelling to Thailand check with your insurance provider that they will continue to cover for claims arising from the current situation. Some travel insurance policies exclude cover following a military coup or the imposition of martial law, and your insurance may be invalid.

The Tourist Authority of Thailand’s website and call centre (1672 - press ‘9’ for English) are able to provide some general advice to tourists in English.

There is a high threat from terrorism. See Terrorism

The majority of road traffic accidents in Thailand involve motorcycles, but accidents involving other vehicles including cars, coaches and mini-buses also occur. See Road travel

By law you must carry your passport with you at all times. Tourists have been arrested because they were unable to produce their passport. See Local laws and customs

Penalties for possession, distribution or manufacture of drugs are severe and can include the death penalty. See Local laws and customs

Take out comprehensive travel and medical insurance before you travel.

The Overseas Business Risk service offers information and advice for British companies operating overseas on how to manage political, economic, and business security-related risks.

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Post by PeteC » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:17 pm

If this all continues, plus the new resort vendor rules putting people out of work, thought has to be given to unemployment. They don't want 10's of thousands going back to Issan with no job and no money and the political implications that would cause. There would be an increased crime issue as well. I think Pattaya alone has in excess of 30,000 from Issan in staff jobs with hotels, restaurants, tours etc.

They need to do something pretty quickly to assure this coming high season isn't a failure. Pete
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Re: Tourist Slump Continues

Post by Bristolian » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:33 pm

With the high season approaching in only a couple of months it's difficult to see what can be done in such a short time to make a turnaround.
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