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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by PeteC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:08 am

Very sensible advice. :thumb: to her! Pete :cheers:


Psychiatrist suggests path to recovery for footballers
national July 10, 2018 01:00 By THE NATION http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/ ... l/30349691

Says they should be seen as victims of an unexpected natural disaster; urges society to give them space for rehabilitation.

THE ROYAL College of Psychiatrists of Thailand has offered guidelines for treating the 13 footballers once they are all rescued from the Chiang Rai cave.

Four members of the Mu Pa Academy Mae Sai football club were evacuated from the cave on Sunday, another four yesterday, and the rest were expected to follow soon.

In an article published for the college, psychiatrist Ananya Sinrachatanant pointed out that the footballers were victims of an unexpected natural disaster over which they had no control. Professionals, with the community’s help, should provide the necessary physical and mental rehabilitation, she wrote.

There were lessons to be learned from the ordeal so as to prevent any recurrence, she said, adding that pinning blame and open criticism would only cause social disunity.

Ananya suggested that the news media stick to factual reporting and avoid interpretations or speculation based on personal viewpoints. News reports should be presented in ways that benefit society, providing information about the rescuers and volunteers rather than sensationalising events, and should guard against violating anyone’s privacy, Ananya said.

She urged the media to let the victims be medically assessed and begin their physical and mental recovery before pursuing them for their stories. Ananya also suggested that the youths and their coach be briefed about people’s reactions and responses across Thailand and around the world while they were trapped in the cave, but purely on a factual basis rather than an overly dramatised version.

They should be shielded at first from critical and sensational news and social media commentary and should not be repeatedly asked to recount their personal experiences, as that would force them to relive their traumatic experience over and over again.

The rescued team members’ families should also be given time to recuperate while being kept informed of their health condition, Ananya wrote, and have assistance for their own physical and mental recovery.

Urging the boys’ schools and community to give them and their families ample personal space, she warned against portraying any comfort to given them as a form of reward, as that would confuse the youths.

When the rescued group is ready to talk about what they went through, it should be handled as lessons in survival and avoiding disaster in future, she said.

In no way should the youths or coach be scolded or expected to display gratitude – they will already feel guilty enough. Ananya urged people to moderate their news consumption and make sure a story is accurate before sharing it, and to avoid getting too emotional, either negatively or positively.

The main takeaways should be in reflecting over what happened and avoiding recurrence and in teaching children how to survive in unexpected crises, to solve problems and to work as part of a team.
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by PeteC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Bangkok Post at 1045 hours.

....."Fresh rains on Tuesday added urgency to the final stages of the treacherous rescue bid, several kilometres inside a mountain and through flooded, tight corridors."......

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/ ... recent_box
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by PeteC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:43 pm

You read the following and decide yourselves what you think. I'm just too far away on a distant planet to relate to or comment on their conclusions and actions with these kids. :alien: Pete

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/ ... l/30349730
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by Nereus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:04 pm

Their requests to watch TV have been denied pending consultations with psychiatrists.
Is it the kids that need the "consultations", or the nutters taking care of them? I could understand if it is their eyes that need more time, but it has been posted elsewhere their eyes are not a problem, except a couple that are still using dark glasses.

We just need to be thankful that so many foreign experts were allowed to intervene in getting them out.
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Post by RCer » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:17 pm

I'll just say this. In 40 years I've only met one Psychiatrist that wasn't a Narcissistic arsehole who put the good of the patient before their own agenda.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by STEVE G » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 pm

PeteC wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:29 pm
Now I'm getting upset (yet again! :banghead: ) The boys rescued last night are fine. They are in the hospital eating pad krapao, but they have them in a quarantine room and haven't let their parents see them yet!.....
I'm not sure Pete, if I was that age and got myself stuck in a cave for a fortnight, requiring the attention of the whole world to rescue me, I wouldn't be in a huge hurry to meet my Father!

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by Big Boy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:45 pm

I've known a few who have been brilliant, but what do I know? Not really the right place to discuss though.

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Post by Nereus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:45 pm

Ninth boy emerges from Thai cave on final day of rescue

https://au.news.yahoo.com/ninth-boy-eme ... 10115.html

The ninth member of the Thai soccer team trapped in a cave has reportedly been pulled out.

The boy was carried out on a stretcher on Tuesday, making him the first to come out on the rescue’s third day. His rescue took five and a half hours.

Rescuers are attempting to save the remaining people from the Tham Luang cave where 12 boys aged 11 to 16 and their soccer coach became trapped on June 23.

Head of the operation, Governor Narongsak Osatanakorn, earlier said the first 19 divers involved in the operation were sent in around 10am on Tuesday (local time).

He added “all five will be brought out at the same time”.

Rain had continued overnight but the governor’s initial hope was that the third stage of the rescue could be performed faster than the rescues on Sunday and Monday, when four boys were freed on each day.

“All five will be brought out at the same time today,” Mr Osottanakorn said.

edit: damned if I know. Now they are reporting 2 more out.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/ninth-boy-eme ... 10115.html

Two more members of the Thai soccer team trapped in a cave have reportedly been pulled out.
The boys were carried out on a stretcher on Tuesday, making them the first two to come out on the rescue’s third day. The first rescue about took five-and-a-half hours.

Two boys and their 25-year-old coach remain in the cave.
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by PeteC » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:00 pm

I saw on the news that besides the remaining 4 boys and coach, there are 2 or 3 Navy Seals and the Australian doctor in the back chamber that have to come out as well. So if it all goes well that's 8 or 9 to come out today. Pete :cheers:
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Post by Nereus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:32 pm

BBC and Australian ABC news both now reporting 11 boys are out!
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Post by Nereus » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:38 pm

11th boy reported rescued from Tham Luang cave

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... luang-cave

MAE SAI, Chiang Rai: The 9th, 10th and 11th boys safely emerged from Tham Luang cave late Tuesday afternoon. “The 9th Wild Boar was out of the cave at 4.06pm,” the Thai Navy Seals posted on Facebook on Tuesday, the projected final day of the mission. A source said the 10th followed shortly, followed by the 11th at 5.08pm.

aid earlier they would bring the remaining people in the cave -- four boys, the football coach, as well as a doctor and three Seals staying with them -- on Tuesday. That leaves one more boy and the 25-year-old football coach to be freed from the underground complex that has trapped them for over two weeks.

"The 10th is at the cave entrance on the way to the field hospital," a navy official told AFP, requesting anonymity. A local government official confirmed the rescue while a police source, who also did not want to be named, said "the ninth and tenth were about 20 minutes apart."

Authorities said earlier they hoped to bring the remaining people in the cave -- four boys, the football coach, as well as a doctor and three Seals staying with them -- on Tuesday.
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

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Boys emerge from Thai cave on final day of rescue

https://au.news.yahoo.com/ninth-boy-eme ... 10115.html

Three more members of the Thai soccer team trapped in a cave have reportedly been pulled out, bringing the total number of boys rescued to 11.

The boys were carried out on stretchers on Tuesday, leaving just one boy and the 25-year-old coach in the cave.
The first rescue on Tuesday took about five-and-a-half hours.

The 12th boy is currently on his way to the cave entry, while the coach is in the cave’s third chamber.
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by HHTel » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:52 pm

Seems like 100% success then. Just the Seals and the doctor following.

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Post by hhinner » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:53 pm

Thai navyseal FB page still has 9 out. As does Thai PBS news. Reuters says 3 people. But reuters got it wrong on the first day.

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Post by hhinner » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:00 pm

hhinner wrote:Thai navyseal FB page still has 9 out. As does Thai PBS news. Reuters says 3 people. But reuters got it wrong on the first day.
Sorry. Reuters says 3 people today, total 11.

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