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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by JWWhite » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 am

Thai cave rescue latest: Last four hero Navy Seals out of cave after remarkable rescue effort
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/t ... 84101.html
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by 404cameljockey » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:40 am

Vital Spark wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:28 am
It's an amazing rescue by the expert team of foreign divers who organised the evacuation of the boys. It's such a pity that the Thai press do not acknowlege those divers. The passive tense (in most of the reports), which I teach it to my students, is normally used when you don't know, or don't care who did the action.

Yes, it's a wonderful and fantastic result - but credit where credit's due.

So, tickets to the World Cup Final and a trip to England. I'm a tad concerned that it's turning into a media circus and other young lads will do crazy things to get the same. A nice gesture, but not appropriate.

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Bangkok Post yesterday had a whole column on the fact that the success of the rescue has been almost completely down to foreign expertise.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by handdrummer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:11 am

The minster of tourism has already stated that he's working on a way to promote the cave as a tourist attraction. Maybe he could combine that in a 2 for 1 deal with a visit to the Phuket boat accident site. I can see the Chinese tourists signing up for it now. Next year there will be a Hollywood movie about the Wild Boars and their cave adventure. Hugh Jackman will play the Aussie dr./diver who will fall in love with a Thai nurse, played by Chissie Teigen or Lily Thai. The dialogue will be overdubbed in Thai, with English subtitles, all cigarettes will be censored, except when they're not, All the boy's will play themselves and their voices will be overdubbed by one voice.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by handdrummer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:13 am

I would like to see a follow-up in 10 yrs. to know how this experience impacted the boy's lives and influenced their decisions in making choices for their careers.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by JWWhite » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:46 pm

Father of Australian Thai cave rescuer Richard Harris dies
Australian doctor and expert diver Richard Harris emerged from a cave in Thailand on Tuesday night knowing all 12 boys and their soccer coach had been saved, only to learn his own father had died.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/fathe ... 4zqsz.html
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by HHTel » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Already!!
A US film crew has already arrived at the foothills of the Tham Luang mountain cave system in Chiang Rai province as one of the world’s most daring rescue operations enters its third day. Divers are expected to today attempt to bring 25-year-old coach Ekkapol “Aek” Chantawong and the remaining four boys — aged 11 to 16 — to safety in a dangerous and highly complex operation.

Pure Flix films managing partner Michael Scott told AAP in Chiang Rai, “I see this as a major Hollywood film with A-list stars”.
Source: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/m ... 93490e14ab

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by hhinner » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:03 pm

oakdale160 wrote:It would be interesting to read the account of the rescue in the Thai media. My guess is that the role of the British and Aussie divers will be downplayed, if mentioned at all.
Not downplayed at all on the more reputable TV stations such as Thai PBS. I saw profiles of several of the leading foreign experts and explanations of their roles.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by HHTel » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:16 pm

Following this story from the beginning, I've seen countless references to the foreign divers especially the Brits. The minister of the interior stated on one TV channel that the British team is leading the rescue.
The Chang Rai governor has never backed off the fact that it's mainly an international team.
I doubt that will be forgotten.

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Post by handdrummer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:04 pm

One of the benefits of this whole adventure is that it's brought Thais together as nothing else has in the past 4 yrs. Volunteers form every province have helped. Water pumps were trucked from two southern provinces by private firms. Chiang Rai didn't have strong enough pumps. Thais and Muslims working together to provide food, a laundry in Chiang Mai working, voluntarily, day and night to wash clothes for the Divers and all the foreigners amazed at how well the Thais were organized and handled the whole operation. Too bad it takes a major, life threatening crisis to bring out the best in people. It's good that the central govt. stayed out the way and let the locals handle everything. The Governor really took charge and kept it all together. Now the question is, how to maintain this spirit of cooperation & creative thinking.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by MDMK » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:13 pm



really nice short video from a Canadian teacher at the school some of the boys attended. It's about the importance of speaking English and how speaking some English aided their rescue.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by Nereus » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:43 pm

Coach Ek the unlikely stateless hero of cave drama

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... cave-drama


MAE SAI, Chiang Rai: Schooled as a monk and now hailed a hero, football coach Ekkapol Chantawong is one of several stateless members of the "Wild Boars", a team whose survival after days trapped in flooded Tham Luang cave,e fixated a country that does not recognise them as citizens.

Coach Ek, the 25-year-old who was among the last to emerge from the cave on Tuesday, has been lauded for keeping the the young footballers - aged 11-16 - calm as starvation loomed in the dark.

He was the only adult with the boys when they entered the cave on June 23 until they were found nine days later by British divers on a muddy bank deep inside the cave complex.

As he awaited his turn to undertake the dangerous exit from the Tham Luang complex, Thais on the outside celebrated him as a modest, devout and duty-bound member of the Mae Sai community.

"From all the parents, please take care of all the children. Don't blame yourself," said a letter to him from the boys' relatives released on July 7.

In reply he scrawled a note apologising to the parents, and vowing to take "the very best care of the kids".
The touching note won the hearts of the Thai public - a group to which he is yet to officially belong.

The UNHCR says Thailand is home to around 480,000 stateless people.

Many are from nomadic hill tribes and other ethnic groups who have for centuries lived around Mae Sai, the heart of 'Golden Triangle' - a lawless wedge of land bisecting Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and China.
'No nationality. No country'

Among the stateless are Ek and three of the boys who were trapped in the cave alongside him - Dul, Mark and Tee - founder of the Wild Boars club Nopparat Khanthavong told AFP.

"To get nationality is the biggest hope for the boys... in the past these boys have problems travelling to play matches outside of Chiang Rai," he added, because of travel restrictions that accompanies their lack of status.

Without passports they are unlikely to be able to take up the invite from Manchester United FC to visit next season.
"They also can't become professional football players because they don't have the (correct) status," he said, adding the process has begun to try to get them nationality.

There are hopes the boys' ordeal will lead to a change of policy.
"The issue of the boys in the cave should give Thailand a wake up call... to grant the stateless nationality," said Pornpen Khongkachonkiet of Amnesty International Thailand.

Coach Ek, who is ethnic Tai Lue, is yet to give his version of the remarkable events of the last few weeks.
A novice monk for several years from the age of 10, Ek left the Buddhist clergy before becoming a full monk in order to look after his grandmother in Mae Sai.

He later became a coach with the Wild Boars.

He is fond of meditation, trekking and the outdoors life, according to monk Ekkapol Chutinaro who roomed with his namesake as a novice.

"We would trek to the jungle, he would always bring a thumb-sized parcel of chilli paste and sticky rice and we would stay there for a couple of days," he recalled of his friend.

As a football coach he is regarded as a generous and patient teacher willing to help even the least skilled kids.
But as a citizen of nowhere he can not yet gain his full coaching qualifications.

"He is stateless. No nationality. No country," added Wild Boars' founder Nopparat.
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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by hhinner » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:54 pm

Despite what has been said by P1 both Sky News and BBC are reporting the kids were sleeping (Sky) or heavily sedated (BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44790376) during their evacuations.

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Re: Thai officials believe 12 boys missing in cave are alive

Post by Big Boy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:59 pm

I was thinking before the rescue started, some sort of sedative might be required to prevent panic attacks. I see nothing wrong, if it facilitates an easier passage out of the cave.
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