Gutters on Two Storey Property

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Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Ken57 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:49 pm

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Having read the forum search results for "gutters". :banghead: , the reason I am enquiring is as follows
The wife and I have had a two storey property built in my wifes home area ( near siblings etc) near Roiet, primarily as a bolt hole for my wife ( and I if still kicking). The builder began to show signs of being a " delboy" :cuss: so he was paid off and shoved off.
The property is 90% complete,one thing missing are GUTTERS ( and there is a lot of roof)
Please can anyone with any opinions regarding whether or not they should be fitted and the type etc.
Reply to this Topic, my gut feeling is they should be fitted.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Bristolian » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:21 am

As you will have seen, most Thai homes don't have guttering and survive pretty well without them.

I did install guttering partially at my house for a number of reasons but mostly to protect the entrances from the waterfalls that ensue during a tropical rainstorm. For me it was important that flooding was kept away from the foundations of the house and therefore the downpipes direct the roof water directly to the drainage system.

Most Thai guttering is galvanised and of a size that will easily handle the heaviest of downpours. My advice would be to go with the galvanised version and don't be tempted by the UPVC offerings as these are generally smaller sections and although they are supposed to be resistant to UV light my experience is that it will deteriorate over time.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Big Boy » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:42 am

I also decided to install guttering so that I could direct the rainfall where I wanted it rather than let the water go where it wanted to. My car port has several uses, and it is important that it doesn't get wet.

I had galvanised installed 3 years ago - I didn't know any better, and went with what was on offer. The price was very good. however, it didn't last, and I've just replaced it with stainless a few weeks ago. It costs more, but having researched it more this time, it has a much longer life, and looks much better.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Nereus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:31 am

I can never understand why the Thais are so reluctant to install guttering. (I think they call them "lim nam". sp)
Any building needs to have the roof run off drained away from the foundations, or it will lead to subsidence, it is not rocket science.

Stainless steel is not that much more expensive, and it should never need replacing. Run the downpipes into at least 3 inch PVC and bury them underground into 1 or 2 concrete rings without bottoms buried below the ground level.

Most village areas will have a contractor that just does gutters and / or drains.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by brianks » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:59 am

Go with Stainless Steel if you plan to have the house for a few years. I have Galvanixed guttering and after a year and a half can already see where it is rusting. Stainless Steel is substantially more but would have never needed replacing. Don't know how much longer mine will last but will replace it with SS when it does go.

A friend nearby has PVC and is very pleased with it. I am not convinced that it is as durable or as long lasting as SS.

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by hhfarang » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:33 pm

We installed galvanized on our house in 2006. When we sold it in 2013 the guttering was still perfect. Maybe that was because we had it painted to match the house trim where it was mounted or maybe there are different grades of galvanized?
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Khundon1975 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:45 pm

Go for stainless steel Ken, you won't regret it.

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Ken57 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:45 pm

Thank you to everyone that has taken the time to reply,I certainly would not risk UPVC I doubt they would
stand up to the sun.
I wonder those who replied that have fitted Stainless Steel Gutters ( Big Boy and Nereus ) Is there an obvious
way that you can tell if the gutters are genuine stainless steel ?
( I am not comfortable taking a strangers word for it it ) eg are stainless steel gutters magnetic ?
Does anyone have any recent examples of price meter for gutters and or down pipes ?

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by PeteC » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:02 pm

Don't write off PVC completely. I've had the below on the west side of the house in direct sun noon to dusk for 8 years now and they're fine. I'll post someday should they fail. Pete

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Nereus » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:11 pm

I wonder those who replied that have fitted Stainless Steel Gutters ( Big Boy and Nereus ) Is there an obvious
way that you can tell if the gutters are genuine stainless steel ?
Well, it is very obvious when you look at it: it is a lot more shiny and polished than galvanised. And yes, it is not magnetic.

The only problem that I can see with PVC is having someone that knows what they are doing to install it, which may be a problem in Village areas. At the time that I used it, PVC was not available. It is now and they have a complete "system", with all types of fittings and mounting hardware.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by brianks » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:46 am

My galvanized guttering looks fine on the outside after 1.5 years and without any paint. Get up on the ladder and look inside and you can see rust spots all over the bottom. Just don't know how long it will take for them to rust through completely. May be many years more but just don't know. Wish I had SS as would not have had to consider it as a problem.

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Big Boy » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:52 am

Mine took approximately 3 years to rust right through. However, the galvanised on the car port has been up longer, and is not showing ant signs of rust. So I guess, as with most products, there is good and bad.
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by pharvey » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:53 pm

^ Must have ours up for 3 years or so now with no real signs of rust etc. Surely repairs can be made using "cold galvanising" materials such as "Galvafroid"? Are similar products available in Thailand?

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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by Pagey » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:37 pm

My house has guttering on the front but not the rear for some reason, so I am going to remedy that. I've rang one company who fitted my neighbours house who quoted galvanised 5'' 250 Baht per metre and 6'' 300 Baht per metre. Stainless was 700 Baht per metre for 5'' and 900 Baht per metre for 6''.

The front is galavanised and the house is about 6 years old with no visible rust on the outside but I will get up on the ladders tomorrow and check the inside for rust and if OK I will stick with the galvanised.

Anyone know if those prices are fair/the norm ?
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Re: Gutters on Two Storey Property

Post by malcolminthemiddle » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:30 am

Just received a quotation for coated galvanised with a 20 year guarantee by http://WWW.AQUALINEASIA.COM at the supply and fix rate of 790 Baht per meter + fittings + travelling.

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