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My Thai's not great, but I can understand more than I can speak - which sometimes really frustrates me.

I was in the local shop tonight buying some beer - probably enough to get four Thai men drunk. A surly woman glanced at me, and my purchases and said 'Falang maow' and then waltzed out into her black pick-up. I really wanted to tell her that I wasn't drunk, I drink beer because I like it (and not because I want to get plastered) and I found her comment insulting. OK, I didn't have the vocab and I'd probably get the tones wrong and tell her she was a slimy cat or something, and I think she was the wife of the Village Head Man - so I said nothing. But I found it insulting. She'd probably be rolling around the floor and singing bad karaoke after one bottle of Spy (or whatever that disgusting, fizzed-up, girly wine drink is called!).

Mr.VS said I was being over-sensitive, but are they really that direct and rude to each other?

And another thing. Mr.VS would never be confused with Twiggy, but I'm fed up with hearing 'Oan maak' (fat) directed towards him. It just ain't funny when you hear it for the 50th time!

Rant over...I'll just pour myself another beer. :cheers:

....and I'm not drunk!

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It could possibly be more to do with you being a female as a lot of Thai woman don't drink, and would never be seen out buying beer.
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same as they ask farangs, why you not married? or where is your wife/husband? how much do you get paid? how big your house? car?

just there way of making conversation.

just ask back how many wife you have? how can you get big house?
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are they really that direct and rude to each other?

VS, I've definitely noticed it the classroom. I'm not sure what younger kids are like, but university students tend to be very rude to each other..."your so fat"..."you eat too much"...."you smell"..."mai suay"..."mai law"....the list goes on and on.What's interesting is no one takes offense to it, or if they are offended, their anger is funneled through to a girlish giggle. i remember a student who obviously wasn't concerned about the hair on her legs. Another girl called her King Kong....I snapped a bit and told her that was rude....they understood "rude"...but said it was only a joke..."law lin".. So I'm not sure if they make these comments to make someone feel bad...like bullying in the west...or is it just for fun...
As far as Oun Mak directed at Mr.VS....I don't think they are trying to be hurtful, because I don't think being fat is considered a negative physical trait in LOS.
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Hi Vs,
I know what you mean by there directness they allways want to know what you earn and how much money you have etc.

next time you are out getting a few essentials and you bump into that stuck up woman just say to her wann bai naa bpriao gon (sweet face sour ass) thats a little tip from my wife she recons that will shut her up. :wink:
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Kendo:

I don't mind questions about money, house, job etc. I've got used to it, and I guess it's their way of working out your status which, as we all know, is hugely important here.

Ermmm... I don't think 'sweet face...' insult is a good idea. You see they live next door, and I love my dog...

In the cold light of day I think I was being a tad touchy - next time I'll just smile sweetly at her and say 'Chai, ka'.

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Hi vs,
I got the sweet face, bit back to front it should be face sweet......I dont think your being touchy at the end of the day it's all about life style, you choose to drink beer and relax in your village in the sun shine after work, nice :D you can go about it in another way invite a few people from the village around for drinkies and eats but dont invite her if she's PYB wife this will rattle her. :wink:
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Guess: Nail hit firmly on head.

Kendo: As my lovely old boss in the UK used to say 'A word to the wise.' - you don't fall out with the PYB's mia noi. If we did have a party, she'd be the first person I'd invite round for a drink. We have very little contact with the other villagers, and I'm quite happy to keep it that way. A nod and a smile just suits me fine.

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I'm not sure what younger kids are like, but university students tend to be very rude to each other..."your so fat"..."you eat too much"...."you smell"..."mai suay"..."mai law"....the list goes on and on.What's interesting is no one takes offense to it, or if they are offended

I don't think they are offended by it and if they aren't offended then its not rude. Among kids, its kids' stuff not much different than when I was a nipper.
We in the west have become far too sensitive, finding offense in almost everything these days. Hey! Everybody can be a victim and everybody gets a medal! :thumb:
IME Thais are quite direct and very bawdy too with all sorts of jokes and comments about hoys and hams.
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kendo wrote:Hi Vs,
I know what you mean by there directness they allways want to know what you earn and how much money you have etc.

next time you are out getting a few essentials and you bump into that stuck up woman just say to her wann bai naa bpriao gon (sweet face sour ass) thats a little tip from my wife she recons that will shut her up. :wink:
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Hi VS,
Maybe you should invite the Mia noi, and the PYB'S wife, just kick back and enjoy the beer, that could be intresting to see if that touches a nerve or three after all she made you feel a bit on edge.......if the shoe fits.. :wink:
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VS,

I think you would have been well within your rights to "tell her she was a slimy cat"! :D
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I used to go to Central America a lot (primarily Honduras and Costa Rica). One thing that struck me was some of the nicknames. Among school girls it wasn't unusual for a heavy girl to be called gorda (fat) as a name.

I noticed, like most of you, that Thailand is similar.

Saying that Ithink VS's commenter was just plain ignorant, and different than the nickname calling.
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hhfarang wrote:VS,

I think you would have been well within your rights to "tell her she was a slimy cat"! :D
Within your rights? Yes.
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