Hua Hin Golf Gossip

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Majestic Creek wrote:I can confirm that the 'rumour' about Gavin not being employed by Majestic Creek is totally innaccurate.
Our agreement with Gavin was to start with a six month contract, where he would attend the course with hiqqs staff and instruct the Majestic green's staff on what procedures would be required to bring the greens back to condition.
This he has been doing for the last two months with great success. The temporary greens are now no longer in use and all18 greens are openand very playable.
There has been an excellent improvement in such a short time, especially as we were warned by Gavin that the process could be much longer before decent improvement could be seen.
We are delighted at the results he has achieved so far, and we are confident we will see them get better and better.
Khun Thanachai, the owner of Majestic, met with Gavin last weekend, to do an inspection and get an update on the progress, and he was very happy how things are developing.
Whilst the initial contract is for six months, this will be reviewed when that time is finished, to see if further advice and input from Gavin will be needed.
Gavin and his team have produced a great result at Majestic, given the task and condition they started with, and we are extremely pleased with his progress.
So, the rumour mongers have got it wrong again, so don't be put off by Hua Hin 'bar gossip'!
Come and play the course and make your own mind up on how much it has improved and the high standard Majestic has achieved.
I played Majestic yesterday and the greens are still in very bad condition, if you think they are playable you must be home blinded and never play another course.
The ball bounce it´s way to the hole more then rolling and that´s not golf for me, we were about 40 people playing yesterday and EVERYBODY was complaining about the greens..

But the rest of the course is ok, good fairway and it´s a nice layout, but don´t tell people that the greens are playable cos thats not true.
It´s nothing but a scam to take full greenfee when the greens are in that condition.
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I do think Majestic could do itself a lot of good if it did reduce green fees while it works on the course. It's clearly still not in good shape in comparison to others in the area. It would engender a lot of goodwill and attract more golfers. Who knows they even may increase revenue through additional green fees, cart fees and F&B sales with a price reduction.
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To say the greens are in 'bad ' condition is a complete mis-representation of the truth, and must be from someone who may have another agenda?
The greens are not in excellent condition, as has been stated here before with a report on the great progress being made by Gavin and his team. But they are now very good and playable, and that IS the truth, despite what detractors who like to post these negative inaccurate reports about the course.
You have a range of choices of where to play in Hua Hin, and I don't expect Majestic will be on that list.
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Majestic Creek wrote:To say the greens are in 'bad ' condition is a complete mis-representation of the truth, and must be from someone who may have another agenda?
The greens are not in excellent condition, as has been stated here before with a report on the great progress being made by Gavin and his team. But they are now very good and playable, and that IS the truth, despite what detractors who like to post these negative inaccurate reports about the course.
You have a range of choices of where to play in Hua Hin, and I don't expect Majestic will be on that list.
Why do you continue with this statement that the greens are very good and playable?
As I said we where more then 40 people playing wednesday and the greens was the BIG conversation, everyone thought the greens was very bad and people where really angry about have to pay full greenfee.
My only agenda is that I get angry when I get cheated and that is the feeling you get after paying full greenfee to play Majestic. And as I said, we where more than 40 people with the same feeling and those in the group that was members at Majestic felt shame infront of the rest of us..

2500 baht to play Majestic is a big NO NO.
Instead of continue this ridiculous defense talk you should listen to people and reduce the greenfee. Then people will have some understanding and that will be good for Majestic in the long end. What happening now is that people get pist off.
This is real Thai style, take the most money you can and don´t bother, there will be new turist tomorrow.

My advice to you is to go out and play another course in the area then maybe you will understand what a good green condition is. In my oppinion and I think I speak for the most golfers the ball shall roll on the green, not bouncing.
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I played Majestic again on Wednesday and the improvement in one week is very impressive, I expect the rain of the last two days will help even more.

People can check my posts and will see that I was very critical of the course about 10 months ago as I felt the greens were deteriorating badly and yet they were denying there was a problem. I honestly think that now they are reasonable and within a few weeks will be very good again.

Mystery surrounding 'C' course though, can't get any news about when it is expected to reopen, was planned for February but must be a long way off being ready or else it would have been subbed in for 'B' when it was so bad.
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I would love to come see what all the fuss is about but not for 2500 or whatever it is.

I must say Mr. Majestic man, you might have a future in Thai politics. You suggest that posters here have "another agenda" and it sounds mightly like the standard response of "let's blame it on the Men In Black- Farangs- Cambodians".

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Fascinating argument going on here! Majestic arguing that their greens are good when everyone else says that they are not! Majestic, you have been going on for months about your greens will be excellent, but still they are not. This process will take time and just being honest will help you so much more. You now have an expert in charge of maintenance but you are paying the price for thinking you could do it without spending money. You will get there for next high season if you continue to invest in your maintenance. It is an ongoing process and never stops and the better your course gets, the more income your course will make. The real problem you have is that you dont employ a golf expert - you only need 1 and you must listen to him.
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Today I played Lake View and there was a member from Majestic in my group, nice fellow :)
After the round he said, Now I understand how bad the greens at Majestic really are, after playing Lake View.
Maybe the Majestic fellow in here should do the same so he understand what referenses the rest of us have...
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Greens at Banyan, Black Mountain and Springfield are better than Lakeviews, although Lakeviews are really good.
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You should try C+D at lakeview. fairways and greens probably as good as anywhere. (CD was used for Qschool).
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I don't play golf and so in many respects I guess it should keep my nose out, but..........reading all the comments on here about the various golf courses in the HH area, it reminds me a bit like restaurants - seldom do everybody agree on which one is best, however, it would appear that with the exception of the man from Majestic, their greens appear to be one of the worst.

Fair enough, they seem to have recognised this and have employed the acknowledged expert (Gavin) to sort them out. Until they are up to scratch, it would seem to be reasonable to expect some reduction in the normal playing fees - I don't know how long this will take, but if say there was a 3-6 month discounted period, I am sure it would be a good and acceptable strategy to retain the current clientele and then when it's back to standard, the guys who are now (understandably) complaining, will be singing its praises.
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A different view!

We had a group of 22 (2 pros and 20 ams) play Majestic Creek yesterday. All agreed the course was in good condition and the greens, whilst not at the standard of Black Mountain, Banyan, Lake View or Sea Pine, were perfectly playable. This group (their 7th year here) has played every course in Hua Hin so are able to make a fair comparison.

Majestic Creek are working hard to improve things and the signs are encouraging.
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Huahinian wrote:A different view!

We had a group of 22 (2 pros and 20 ams) play Majestic Creek yesterday. All agreed the course was in good condition and the greens, whilst not at the standard of Black Mountain, Banyan, Lake View or Sea Pine, were perfectly playable. This group (their 7th year here) has played every course in Hua Hin so are able to make a fair comparison.

Majestic Creek are working hard to improve things and the signs are encouraging.
How much did you get to write this, 80% discount on gf rest of the year?
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Awu

I think your being a bit hard and maybe you are not Au-fait with Thai business culture.

Firstly I have met a few friends over the past couple of months who come over every year to play golf on the numerous courses around Hua Hin. When asked about MC they have said that the greens are by no means at their best but are playable and improvements are in progress

Secondly, asking a Thai run business to reduce its fees is tantamount to telling them to sell up. Ever heard of the damage 'losing face' means here?
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Played Springfield 10 times in 14 days and we were very pleased to see that the course was in excellent condition. Thanks to SP.

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