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Temporary sub-forum for all news, updates, developments and discussion on Coronavirus/Covid-19 in Hua Hin, Thailand and globally. Any and all topics on the outbreak will be moved into this forum for ease of information access.
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^^And here's what he actually said...
Mr Van-Tam said: “We aren't light years away from it. It isn't a totally unrealistic suggestion we could deploy a vaccine soon after Christmas.
"It's not totally unrealistic..." Hmm

The article (https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronav ... ne-3007047) goes on to say...
The first vaccines will be given to the elderly and vulnerable and to vaccinate those most at risk will take several months. Most people will not be given the jab.
I wouldn't get too carried away just yet.
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World economies suffering due to the pandemic. The graph shows the 3rd quarter compared to last year. One economy seems to be doing just fine, mind. The one that made it. :roll: :tosser:

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Lost wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:02 am World economies suffering due to the pandemic. The graph shows the 3rd quarter compared to last year. One economy seems to be doing just fine, mind. The one that made it. :roll: :tosser:
Surprised?
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Sobering news, and a surprise to me. :banghead:

Vaccine trials 'can't detect' virus risk reduction, says researcher

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/20063 ... researcher

PARIS: None of the trials of Covid-19 candidate vaccines can detect a reduction in serious outcomes such as hospitalisation or death, a leading public health expert said on Thursday.

Writing in the BMJ medical journal, associate editor Peter Doshi warned that not even phase 3 trials under way in the race for a vaccine can prove their product will prevent people contracting Covid-19.

In a sobering essay, Doshi said those hoping for a breakthrough to end the pandemic would be disappointed, with some vaccines likely to reduce the risk of Covid-19 infection by only 30 percent.

"None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths," he wrote.

"Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus."

The World Health Organization (WHO) has identified 42 candidate vaccines in clinical trials, ten of which are in the most advanced "phase 3" stage.

This is where a vaccine's effectiveness is tested on a large scale, generally tens of thousands of people across several continents.

But Doshi, assistant professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, said that even the most advanced trials are evaluating mild rather than severe disease.

This may be down to the numbers of people involved in trials, he said, pointing out that the majority of confirmed Covid-19 infections involve mild or no symptoms.

- No trials on elderly -

And few if any current trials are designed to find out whether there is a benefit among the elderly, a key at-risk constituency.

Without enrolling frail and elderly volunteers in trials in sufficient numbers, Doshi said "there can be little basis for assuming any benefit against hospitalisation or mortality.

He added that children, immunocompromised people and pregnant women had largely been excluded from trials, making it unlikely that the experiments will address key gaps in our understanding of how Covid-19 develops differently among individuals.

Several trials have already been halted after participants became ill.

Many countries plan to prioritise vulnerable people once a vaccine is available, but Doshi said that those hoping for a miracle end to the pandemic would have to wait.

He said that several pharmaceutical firms had designed their studies "to detect a relative risk reduction of at least 30 percent in participants developing laboratory confirmed Covid-19".

Recent studies have also confirmed that it is possible for someone to be reinfected with Covid-19, a development that may impact how governments' form their vaccination plans.
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So vaccines will be prioritised for the elderly (and children) even though the elderly are excluded from the phase 3 testing. Seems like the roll out to the elderly will be another phase of testing then.
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It would be a difficult decision to administer the vaccine to an elderly person then shoot them with Covid on the hope the vaccine will protect them!
Using younger and fitter individuals will still measure the effectiveness of the vaccine and if it's not effective against a shot of Covid, the chances are that the individual will recover. Not so when using the elderly as guinea pigs.

The 'flu vaccine is not a complete protection. It's modified twice a year and some years it's more effective than other years. It's never been a 100% protection. It's likely that a Covid vaccine will follow a similar route.
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An interesting if somewhat sober look at the possible effectiveness of a Covid vaccine should one be successfully developed.

If you're pinning your hopes on a Covid vaccine, here's a dose of realism.....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... protection
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You know, it would really be NICE to read some good news at least a few times a year, about something....anything?! :banghead: :banghead:
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Covid: Antibodies 'fall rapidly after infection'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54696873

Levels of protective antibodies in people wane "quite rapidly" after coronavirus infection, say researchers.

Antibodies are a key part of our immune defences and stop the virus from getting inside the body's cells.

The Imperial College London team found the number of people testing positive for antibodies has fallen by 26% between June and September.

They say immunity appears to be fading and there is a risk of catching the virus multiple times.

More than 350,000 people in England have taken an antibody test as part of the REACT-2 study so far.

In the first round of testing, at the end of June and the beginning of July, about 60 in 1,000 people had detectable antibodies.

But in the latest set of tests, in September, only 44 per 1,000 people were positive.

It suggests the number of people with antibodies fell by more than a quarter between summer and autumn.

"Immunity is waning quite rapidly, we're only three months after our first [round of tests] and we're already showing a 26% decline in antibodies," said Prof Helen Ward, one of the researchers.

The fall was greater in those over 65, compared with younger age groups, and in those without symptoms compared with those with full-blown Covid-19.

The number of healthcare workers with antibodies remained relatively high, which the researchers suggest may be due to regular exposure to the virus.

Antibodies stick to the surface of the coronavirus to stop it invading our body's cells, and attract the rest of the immune system.

Exactly what the antibody drop means for immunity is still uncertain. There are other parts of the immune system, such as T-cells, which may also play a role.

However, the researchers warn antibodies tend to be highly predictive of who is protected.

Prof Wendy Barclay said: "We can see the antibodies and we can see them declining and we know antibodies on their own are quite protective.

"On the balance of evidence, I would say it would look as if immunity declines away at the same rate as antibodies decline away, and that this is an indication of waning immunity."

There are four other human coronaviruses, which we catch multiple times in our lives. They cause common cold symptoms and we can be reinfected every six to 12 months.

There have been very few confirmed cases of people getting Covid twice. However, the researchers warn this may be due to immunity only just starting to fade since the peak infection rates of March and April.

The hope is the second infection will be milder than the first, even if immunity does decline, as the body should have an "immune memory" of the first encounter and know how to fight back.

The researchers say their findings do not scupper hopes of a vaccine, which may prove more effective than a real infection.

One of the researchers, Prof Graham Cooke, said: "The big picture is after the first wave, the great majority of the country didn't have evidence of protective immunity.

"The need for a vaccine is still very large, the data doesn't change that."
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Well this is more positive than negative Pete - an article about a hospital in Newcastle treating Covid patients.

We are standing in full PPE, in one of the two hospital intensive care units which are solely for Covid patients. This is a bright, modern ward - sunlight pouring in.
At one end there is a large black plastic barrier taped across an opening. On the other side, none of the patients has Covid-19. The makeshift divider is a reminder that all this is still relatively new. It is the first winter where the NHS's response to the usual heavy demands will have to be adjusted for coronavirus.
On the Covid unit, something else is immediately apparent: the sound of conversation.
When I first reported from a Covid intensive care unit in April, I was left haunted by what I'd seen. All but one patient had been on a ventilator, in a medically induced coma. It was eerily quiet, just the rhythmical sound of machines pumping air into lungs.
The medical teams were at a loss to know how best to treat a savage condition which was ravaging victims' lungs and other organs. Lives hung in the balance, often for weeks on end. In early April, two out of three ventilated patients did not survive.
Today, in this intensive care unit (ICU) at the Royal Victoria Infirmary, Newcastle upon Tyne, only one of the five patients is on a ventilator. The others are sitting up, engaging with the nurses, reading or watching TV.
"The Jedi is my nickname," says Brian Clamp. The 62-year-old is a steward at a social club, where he works behind the bar.
He had been getting better but was readmitted to intensive care when his breathing worsened. It is still a little laboured, despite the nasal oxygen supply, but his sense of humour and laughter are intact. Brian admits the experience has been "absolutely terrifying", but adds, with a smile, "they will get us better, I know that".
He is determined to get home to watch his granddaughter, Millie, play football.

At least half the patients here are on clinical trials. Brian has received convalescent plasma, packed with antibodies against coronavirus, donated by someone who recovered from the infection. It's not clear whether blood plasma works against Covid-19, but trials are ongoing. I donated plasma earlier this year and there's still an urgent need for more adults to do so.
Further down the ward is Edmund Derrick, who is relieved to have his sense of taste back. He is savouring an egg sandwich.
"I had this foul, acrid, burnt taste in my mouth for days, which invaded absolutely everything," he says. His other symptoms included violent uncontrollable shuddering and sudden temperature swings.
The 71-year-old retired local government worker is, like everyone here, keen to get home to his family. His wife contracted coronavirus at the same time as him but didn't fall seriously ill. Men are still twice as likely as women to end up in intensive care with Covid-19.
The NHS workers 'still recovering' as second wave looms
"I think I'm lucky to have got it in the second wave," he says, "now the doctors know so much more."
There's no doubt more patients are surviving Covid-19, although it's too early to give precise figures. Ventilators are used more sparingly and there is greater reliance on other, non-invasive means of giving oxygen.
About 1,000 Covid patients a day are being admitted to hospitals across the UK, roughly a third of the numbers at the peak. Covid-related deaths are running at about a fifth of the level in early April.
"Now, we know the beast that is Covid pneumonia," says Dr Lewis Gray, a consultant in intensive care. "We know how it develops, how it's treated, how people can and do recover."


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And another one that gives hope to immunity especially those of older years (like many of us)

https://www.reuters.com/article/health- ... SKBN27B0J1


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THAILAND REPORTS FIRST COVID-19 FATALITY IN 49 DAYS
The government’s response center to the coronavirus reported a new virus fatality on Friday, bringing the total death toll to 60, as eight more people were found infected.

The victim was a 66-year-old man who had diabetes and hypertension, the center said. He returned from the United Kingdom on Oct. 19 and stayed at a state quarantine facility in Chonburi province before testing positive for the coronavirus on Oct. 22, according to the crisis center.

The patient died at a hospital on Thursday. It was the first death associated with the coronavirus in 49 days. The last fatality in the country was reported on Sept. 18.

Eight new cases were also discovered inside state quarantine. They include an individual returning from Switzerland, India, Ukraine, the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia, and three from Myanmar.

As of Friday, 119 infected patients are being treated at hospitals, while 3,639 patients have recovered. The country’s cumulative case of infection now stands at 3,818.

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Thailand’s excellent Covid-19 response has become a golden handcuff for the Prayut government
Thailand’s response to the coronavirus pandemic has been excellent. At a time where Europe and North America are seeing a second wave of coronavirus infections, Thailand is cruising through relatively unscathed and life in the kingdom has returned to normal.

A combination of factors have helped Thailand as it combatted Covid-19, world class public health infrastructure, the right climate, and a government that has largely step aside and let the doctors handle the battle.

But while the public health battle has been won, and won decisively, the economic fallout from our battle with Covid-19 will likely be with us for some time.

Thailand is set to see its largest economic contraction ever, worse than the 1997 ASEAN Financial Crisis. The GDP is set to contract nearly 8 percent while the lack of tourism has shut down whole industries throughout the country.

The government under the Prayut Chan-ocha administration has done an exemplary job in staying out of the way and letting the healthcare infrastructure guide the country at the height of the crisis. But now that the crisis is mostly over inside our covid-free bubble, the government has not managed to come out with the right policies to help the free falling economy.

In fact, a series of missteps has marred the government’s economic response from the misallocation of various stimulus packages to the high profile reshuffle of the economic posts. Predee Daochai, the much respected former President of Kasikorn Bank, was recruited by the prime minister personally for weeks only to be driven out by internal politics less than a month after assuming the post of Finance Minister.

More - https://www.thaienquirer.com/20578/thai ... overnment/
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Personally, I have a suspicion that "Thailand's excellent Covid response" is all down to geographic location and the resulting climate. Here where I am in Europe, it practically disappeared during the long hot summer and then surged as soon as the autumn weather set in.
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The Oxford vaccine is planned to be approved by Christmas.
UK authorities have placed orders for 100 million doses of the Oxford vaccine - enough to vaccinate most of the population - should it receive regulatory approval.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... virus-who/
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