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sandman67 wrote:Wales, as a long conquered county, now part of the UNITED KINGDOM, doesn't have a capital. They gave that right up somewhere in the middle ages.....somewhere around "Proud Edward" Longshanks's time I think.....[/img]
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Actually, the Act of Union was in 1536, a mere three centuries after Edward Longshanks and some time after the end of the middle ages, which is generally considered to have ended in Britain in 1485 at the battle of Bosworth Field, at which the English throne was taken by the Welsh house of Tudor.

To cut a long story short, it (and a subsequent Welsh Act of Union) was principally enacted under pressure from the Welsh gentry, who had supported the house of Tudor in it's successful bid for the throne, so they could benefit from the same land & political rights as their English counterparts. The red dragon on a white & green background - the national flag of Wales - was Henry Tudor's standard at the battle of Bosworth.

Between then and Edward Longshanks' time, the Capital of Wales had moved according to the power struggles of the time but had most famously been located at Machynlleth - chosen by Owain Glyndwr because of its difficulty to pronounce by the English....

Cardiff is of course, the national and administrative capital of Wales, after the ballot of 1954. The official government statement read in Parliament in 1955 went as follows:

The government have been impressed by the volume of support in Wales for the view that Cardiff is the city which should most appropriately be regarded as the capital of Wales and, in deference to these views, the government are prepared to recognise Cardiff as capital of the Principality.

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The red dragon on a white & green background - the national flag of Wales - was Henry Tudor's standard at the battle of Bosworth.

That's the difference between the English and the Welsh. The English put their Mother in Laws on a pedestal, the Welsh put them on their flag
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Jaime when i was back in Aberaeron and was going to and from hospital i passed a large lump of land in Aberystwyth which said reserved for the welsh government is that the parliament moving there or is it just offices :?
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I think it's probably just a local office site - they are devolving power even further supposedly.
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I bought the lads in the office one of those maps the street sellers punt out and stuck a pin in Hua Hin so they know where I am....

My mum and dad have a fridge magnet map with Hua Hin marked by a sort of golf flag.....

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Very interesting. I asked a question about Swansea but it's gone.
sandman67 wrote:United Kingdom

the clue is in the name...... UNITED.. so it has ONE capital

London... (god help us)
United implies more than one. The United States has no less than 51 capitals. What do you want god to help you with? If London seems a strange choice of capital it's because it is the only City of any size that is south of the Severn - Wash line. Colchester was used by the Romans and Bristol has been the commercial capital in the past. I think you will find that the only possibles left for England are Winchester, Salisbury and Truro.
sandman67 wrote:Wales, as a long conquered county, now part of the UNITED KINGDOM, doesn't have a capital. They gave that right up somewhere in the middle ages.....somewhere around "Proud Edward" Longshanks's time I think.....
Are you referring to Edward the first, otherwise known as, Edward the idiot, Eddy the Psycho or Edward the Warmonger. If so I must point out that this homicidal maniac and father of a gay Prince was himself a direct descendant of the most recent of conquerors of England. The many time conquered backwater of England had been controlled by Danes since the Italians gave them their independence. The Viking Normans then took the country over in 1066 AD and intermarried with the remaining Danish royalty and continued to govern England. Edward the Fist (another nickname) was a descendant of these two foreign royal houses.

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sandman67 wrote:Screw them....who is laughing...you or them?
I think that in some cases the answer has to be......"them"

Surely the topic is about the thoughts of the people back in your home country and not what you think about them. The fact that we are here shows that we value our personal welfare above the relationships with our "mates" or friends and acquaintances.
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Strange thread this, seems to have moved from friends to geography. Most of my friends think that Thailand consists of BKK, dodge city, aka Pattaya and Phuket. Most UK civil servants and politicians obviously think that Thailand is in eastern Europe, which must be why they allow Thaksin to stay!
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clive wrote:
Most UK civil servants and politicians obviously think that Thailand is in eastern Europe
A stange comment. Please explain most civil servants, and where your source comes from. Or are you simply talking through your :butt:
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Getting back to the original question.

My family, bless them, all live within 10 miles of where they were born. They can't understand why I would want to live the other side of the world. They're not unintelligent, but they've never been to Asia (and probably will never come) so they can't/don't want to believe that a life outside their comfortable pond could be better. Fine. Each to their own.

We go back to the UK every two years for the 'duty trip'. It's not a holiday, it's to keep mums and dad happy - it's damned hard work! The first few visits we wanted to tell them about our life here and all the interesting and strange things that happened. We soon realised that they weren't really interested, and couldn't quite grasp it. My mum said that I was living a 'primitive life' because I had a partially open kitchen and a bath of water in the bathroom. After that we gave up. We do the trips, but only talk about our life here if asked - which is rare. When we lived in Bangkok my sister asked me if there were any cars! :shock: Sadly, most of the information that they get from news or documentaries are pretty pictures of Hill Tribes and elephants, or the sleezy Patpong scene.

Our friends listen to our stories (when they ask us), but we're usually interrupted by them telling us about their problems, the state of the government, and how fed up they are. When we suggest that they do what we did, there's always a multitude of excuses: the dog, the mortgage, the business, etc, etc.

It doesn't bother me. We've got another 18 months until the next 'duty trip'. It's great to see the parents, but after 3 days or so I find I run out of things to talk about...

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Vital Spark wrote:................... said that I was living a 'primitive life' because I had a partially open kitchen and a bath of water in the bathroom.
I got the same reaction when I moved out to Singapore. Not from my mum I might add, but from friends and acquaintances I had worked with.

I silenced them temporarily when I sent back photos including the inside of my apartment, the gardens and one of me at the wheel of my boss's 300SL Mercedes.

On my next return to the UK I got the " how can you live with such luxuries when the people outside are starving and living in poverty."

These are the same sort of people that take their annual holidays in Majorca and say that Americans don't know about anything outside their own country.
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Guess wrote:These are the same sort of people that take their annual holidays in Majorca and say that Americans don't know about anything outside their own country.
I take my annual holidays in Mallorca!!
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Jaime wrote: I take my annual holidays in Mallorca!!
I had to put somewhere that was not down market as the sort of people I was referring to were in there 30s and would have been very conscious about what their friends thought of where they were going.

Most people I knew by then had already done the Torremelinos and Benidorm trips in there and were going a bit up market on there returns to Spain. The other popular destination in those days was the Algarve.

I have forgotten now about the spelling ll vs j in Mallorca/Majorca. Is that the local and national spellings or is j wrong completely.

Anybody who went to Thailand for a holiday would probably have been put into quarantine for two weeks afterward. At best they would have been seen as fruit cakes for taking such a risk.
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Oooooh yes VS - I know exactly what you mean there. People just don't want to know. Or maybe they just can't comprehend? Best to speak only when spoken to about LOS, and under no circumstances moan about the absence of fanny sprays in England! (Doesn't loo roll seem like the most filthy habit?)

Guess though has got me spittin' bricks I'm afraid. Alternatives for a Capital city - Winchester? Salisbury? Truro? Never heard of YORK Guess?

Maybe not though. York already has a full time job being the capital of Gods Own County! :cheers:
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