This should upset a few people
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sandman67
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I agree entirely mate.I can see nothing there except a solitary life in a place I dont want to be and eventually dying a lonley old man as I have seen many others do.
Time and money.......I find they are mutually exclusive.....usually have too much of one and not enough of the other
"Science flew men to the moon. Religion flew men into buildings."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."
"To sin by silence makes cowards of men."
All fun and games when I retired here
Now the sparkle of the bars and the girls has worn off
The golf and travel are restricted by my gammy leg and my empty wallet
Life now is a breakfast and a chat with some fellow expats, coffee overlooking the gulf with another friend and reminiscing, an afternoon kip when too hot, a game plan for evening food, HHAD and surfing the net and occasionally another few paras for my book.
All pretty boring and rut like but I often reflect on how it would be in the UK. Probably the same but wet and miserable
At the end of the day it's down to the individual to make changes if he/she wants isn't it?
ps Just been skyped by one of my daughters reminding me it is 37 years ago today since I first walked down the aisle. Would things have been different?????? If I was a drinker I'd be celebrating or commiserating or both
Now the sparkle of the bars and the girls has worn off
The golf and travel are restricted by my gammy leg and my empty wallet
Life now is a breakfast and a chat with some fellow expats, coffee overlooking the gulf with another friend and reminiscing, an afternoon kip when too hot, a game plan for evening food, HHAD and surfing the net and occasionally another few paras for my book.
All pretty boring and rut like but I often reflect on how it would be in the UK. Probably the same but wet and miserable
At the end of the day it's down to the individual to make changes if he/she wants isn't it?
ps Just been skyped by one of my daughters reminding me it is 37 years ago today since I first walked down the aisle. Would things have been different?????? If I was a drinker I'd be celebrating or commiserating or both
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
A good friend who takes up an interest in something that drags you out of the house.Cowtown Comedy wrote:So for the many who have grown out of the bars and beers, what is HH lacking in terms in providing quality leisure time for expats at affordable prices? team sports?, modern fitness facilties, gymnasium, library, live theatre, musicals. .....interested to hear...
Then you can't let them down and all of a sudden everyone is happy - including wives and kids.
Whether it's golf, walking the beach, swimming, doing Kung Foo - it dosn't matter. It brings the family and friends together, passes the time and is better for you than sitting at home drinking beer and trying to focus the eyes on a book.
I'm talking about myself, not anyone else.
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dtaai-maai
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One thing I’ve noticed is that many of the seriously long term ex-pats I know up in Issan often seem more contented than those living in tourist areas.
Perhaps that is because you can get more involved in the local community and many farangs up there have a bit of interest in farming on some level, if only as a hobby.
It was for this reason that I built a house up there and my partner is now starting to farm on a small scale and I intend to get involved as I spend more time in Thailand.
Obviously there is no amount of money in it; you just do it for the satisfaction of the thing.
Perhaps that is because you can get more involved in the local community and many farangs up there have a bit of interest in farming on some level, if only as a hobby.
It was for this reason that I built a house up there and my partner is now starting to farm on a small scale and I intend to get involved as I spend more time in Thailand.
Obviously there is no amount of money in it; you just do it for the satisfaction of the thing.
I've been an expat for eight years now (Spain & Thailand) and can relate to many of the grumbles and comments here. But in my case (still working) I find that regular trips back to Europe remind me of why I choose not to remain there.
Nowhere is perfect, but Thailand is where I intend to spend my retirement years.........why.........I think my Thai wife & family will be happier here, the climate, low cost of living, relatively unregulated society and so on.
Many people seem to forget why they became expats in the first instance. Some feel trapped/frustated because their financial circumstances do not allow them the option to return to their home country. Some think they are on a permanent vacation and drink/s..g themselves into oblivion.
Some just think the grass is greener elsewhere and will always be unhappy!!
Nowhere is perfect, but Thailand is where I intend to spend my retirement years.........why.........I think my Thai wife & family will be happier here, the climate, low cost of living, relatively unregulated society and so on.
Many people seem to forget why they became expats in the first instance. Some feel trapped/frustated because their financial circumstances do not allow them the option to return to their home country. Some think they are on a permanent vacation and drink/s..g themselves into oblivion.
Some just think the grass is greener elsewhere and will always be unhappy!!
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This should upset a few people
Ms Evans really annoys me! She is supposed to be running a Property Letting Business - but doesn't seem to do any work on it does she?
Moans about the milk - drink your tea with lemon then dear.
Went along with the rich set for 8 years, and felt obliged to accumulate dresses and bags just to 'keep up'.
Doesn't seem to have any hobbies, etc etc.
Will probably sit at home in England and moan about the weather, the lack of social life, and the distance to the nearest Waitrose.
Get a grip duck, and most importantly, get a life!
Moans about the milk - drink your tea with lemon then dear.
Went along with the rich set for 8 years, and felt obliged to accumulate dresses and bags just to 'keep up'.
Doesn't seem to have any hobbies, etc etc.
Will probably sit at home in England and moan about the weather, the lack of social life, and the distance to the nearest Waitrose.
Get a grip duck, and most importantly, get a life!
A sprout is for life - not just for Christmas.
Re: This should upset a few people
[quote="margaretcarnes"]Ms Evans really annoys me! She is supposed to be running a Property Letting Business - but doesn't seem to do any work on it does she?
mags,you did not read between the lines about Ms Evans,you can neither sell or rent a place in Viva Espagne.She is broke,probably cannot pay this terms school fees at her sons place as term started 3 weeks ago.I have a wee suspicion that this lady actually does not exist and some daily mail hack threw it together for a deadline or lose their job.My son works for that abomination of a paper and his stories of journalistic licence are frightening(apologies to Lomu).
I was more interested in Steve G's comment about how much happier farangs can be in Issan.Brits like to migrate or emigrate to somewhere where other Brits are,it makes them feel more at home and then find that paradise is not always up to their expectations.For people selling up everything its an audacious move,however I would have thought Thailand would be easier as a fair few men are settling down with a female from the country so in reality its an easy transition.I met Bear once in a bar in Nongkai and he was quite happy with his life up there after his adventures in samui and Ho Hin
I live out in the sticks here,Zero English but a few dutch,SA and Zim farmers who are great people but I plan to return to UK in 2010 and settle in Norfolk and probably become Norwich City season ticket holder,but i have been abroad most of my life so perhaps I am doing things in reverse.
Great post though,better reread it though do not want to rattle any cages but sure as hell sarge is dead happy.Good luck sir
mags,you did not read between the lines about Ms Evans,you can neither sell or rent a place in Viva Espagne.She is broke,probably cannot pay this terms school fees at her sons place as term started 3 weeks ago.I have a wee suspicion that this lady actually does not exist and some daily mail hack threw it together for a deadline or lose their job.My son works for that abomination of a paper and his stories of journalistic licence are frightening(apologies to Lomu).
I was more interested in Steve G's comment about how much happier farangs can be in Issan.Brits like to migrate or emigrate to somewhere where other Brits are,it makes them feel more at home and then find that paradise is not always up to their expectations.For people selling up everything its an audacious move,however I would have thought Thailand would be easier as a fair few men are settling down with a female from the country so in reality its an easy transition.I met Bear once in a bar in Nongkai and he was quite happy with his life up there after his adventures in samui and Ho Hin
I live out in the sticks here,Zero English but a few dutch,SA and Zim farmers who are great people but I plan to return to UK in 2010 and settle in Norfolk and probably become Norwich City season ticket holder,but i have been abroad most of my life so perhaps I am doing things in reverse.
Great post though,better reread it though do not want to rattle any cages but sure as hell sarge is dead happy.Good luck sir
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migrant wrote:........................ and am often assured that the time will fill itself................................
You forgot "In my case" or "IMO". For me that statement has proven true. Although I still do work related tasks, I never have a shortage non work related things to do. If I was physically able I could fill my time three times over. Of course you need an active and imaginative mind. A desire to explore and look at what nature has to offer is another bonus.arse gnat wrote:......................Has absolutely nothing to do with reality.....
I assume you are trying to say that you have seven times as much spare time when you are retired than when you are in full time employment.a s garnet wrote:...................May i suggest you get a notebook and write down things to do each day and how long in hours you can do it without getting distracted. When you have enough in your book to occupy
yourself for 7 days 24 hours a day when you retire you should have just enough to fill one day......................
Again this is entirely dependent on the individual. When I was working in London and commuting I had no free time in the week at all. The weekends were spent mostly relaxing but also doing the odd chore around the house. When I was working in CA I had a fully serviced apartment and only a 20 minute trip to the office. I then had no chores to do and plenty of spare time on my hands. Of course I had no problem filling the spare time with central CA having one of the most favorable climates in the world.
Even in Kuala Lumpur where it pissed down with rain every day I don't ever remember getting bored.
The OP contains an article written by a journalist, Alison Smith-Squire who specializes in writing people's life stories. Her work mostly caters for women. She gets ideas from the public and writes them up for publication in the Daily Mill and other women's publications. The content is all fiction. If you study the article it does not hold water. The subject woman is portrayed as being a complete moron. As Margaret says, Ms. Evans runs a letting agency but there is no mention of her duties.
The problem she has is changing from a rat race commuting city life to a rural life. The same argument would apply in a small affluent English coastal town. Nothing is mentioned about the nearby islands, ancient Moorish architecture, listening to music and reading that you would expect from someone who has emigrated to the Balearics. She does do some name dropping and mentions wealth on more than one occasion. Anybody who is impressed by other peoples wealth is really sad. If you are not happy with your immediate surroundings then move.
Perhaps she thought it would all be like Ibiza and she could live the life of the divorcee in a land full of Spanish waiters.
The article is just the sort of gutter garbage I would expect from the Daily Mill.
Added after seeing Digger's post. (I had breakfast in the middle of the post).
Everything I would like to say but didn't have the balls. I doubt Ms. Evans exists and the sad hack is named and shamed above. She actually works for an agency who sell to many women's gutter publications such as the Daily (rumour) Mill.Digger wrote:........................you did not read between the lines about Ms Evans,you can neither sell or rent a place in Viva Espagne.She is broke,probably cannot pay this terms school fees at her sons place as term started 3 weeks ago.I have a wee suspicion that this lady actually does not exist and some daily mail hack threw it together for a deadline or lose their job.My son works for that abomination of a paper and his stories of journalistic licence are frightening(apologies to Lomu).
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