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dtaai-maai
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To the OP,
If you get a multi-entry Non O visa, it will be valid for a year from the date of issue. You need to exit the country every 90 days whilst the visa is valid. These visas come in either single or multiple entry varieties. The single obviously gives one entry of 90 days and will be stamped as "used" when you enter Thailand.
Either variety of Non Imm O visa can be extended for a year within Thailand as long as you meet certain criteria. Imm normally like the application to be made withing the last 30 days of any 90 day permitted to stay stamp. (You can do it on the last day, but if you're missing some paperwork you'll be stumped!!).
The extension is separate from any re-entry permit you get/need. Re-entry permits cost an additional fee and again come in either single or multiple varieties. If you get an annual extension and leave Thailand, that extension and the original Non Imm O visa are lost and you'll have to start from scratch again - unless you have the re-entry permit.
If you get a multi-entry Non O visa, it will be valid for a year from the date of issue. You need to exit the country every 90 days whilst the visa is valid. These visas come in either single or multiple entry varieties. The single obviously gives one entry of 90 days and will be stamped as "used" when you enter Thailand.
Either variety of Non Imm O visa can be extended for a year within Thailand as long as you meet certain criteria. Imm normally like the application to be made withing the last 30 days of any 90 day permitted to stay stamp. (You can do it on the last day, but if you're missing some paperwork you'll be stumped!!).
The extension is separate from any re-entry permit you get/need. Re-entry permits cost an additional fee and again come in either single or multiple varieties. If you get an annual extension and leave Thailand, that extension and the original Non Imm O visa are lost and you'll have to start from scratch again - unless you have the re-entry permit.
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PooftersFrothWyoming
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My thanks to all for your advice and observations. They helped.
In under an hour I was able to go from a 30 day arrival stamp to a one year multientry visa. It cost 7,700 baht, or a snip at 21 baht a day.
Hua Hin Polyclinic declined to give me a health check saying that for immigration purposes, San Paolo is the place to go. After 10 minutes and 300 baht I had the health certificate. Hua Hin Immigration though, didn't want it or look at it.
The bank balance caused a problem because I withdrew money after the bank had verified the amount and then updated my passbook. Bad move. But that was quickly solved by running to the bank and depositing the same amount so the passbook showed the bank certified balance.
I've dealt with immigration in many Asian countries in the last 35 years. Hua Hin was easily the best. Even better than Singapore. The staff were incredibly fast, efficient and businesslike. How they manage to keep their cool in the face of dramas played out in front of them daily, invited my admiration.
I'd like to compare them with Malaysia. Once all the paperwork was done, it took 3 weeks to get My Malaysia Second Home visa, MM2H. Hua Hin was one hour. Sure, you get a lot more under MM2H - a 10 year multientry visa with no reporting requirements, car purchase free of tax, and now, part time work (which must be approved). But still, Hua Hin compares well. There can't be many countries in the world that hand out one year visas on the spot for $20,000 dollars in the bank. (In Malaysia it's $40,000).
There are still a couple of things I'll have to deal with. The 24 hour reporting rule. I'll be in and out of Thailand every month or so. I'll report the first time to ask if it's necessary. But where? One reports to the police in Hua Hin or Immigration Hua Hin?
Second is the 90 day rule which I'm assuming doesn't concern me because I'll never be here longer than 45 days. So that helpful note stapled into my passport about notifiying Immigration my place or residence every 90 days, I can ignore, right?
Once again, thanks for the insights. If anyone is interested in MM2H I'm happy to reciprocate.
In under an hour I was able to go from a 30 day arrival stamp to a one year multientry visa. It cost 7,700 baht, or a snip at 21 baht a day.
Hua Hin Polyclinic declined to give me a health check saying that for immigration purposes, San Paolo is the place to go. After 10 minutes and 300 baht I had the health certificate. Hua Hin Immigration though, didn't want it or look at it.
The bank balance caused a problem because I withdrew money after the bank had verified the amount and then updated my passbook. Bad move. But that was quickly solved by running to the bank and depositing the same amount so the passbook showed the bank certified balance.
I've dealt with immigration in many Asian countries in the last 35 years. Hua Hin was easily the best. Even better than Singapore. The staff were incredibly fast, efficient and businesslike. How they manage to keep their cool in the face of dramas played out in front of them daily, invited my admiration.
I'd like to compare them with Malaysia. Once all the paperwork was done, it took 3 weeks to get My Malaysia Second Home visa, MM2H. Hua Hin was one hour. Sure, you get a lot more under MM2H - a 10 year multientry visa with no reporting requirements, car purchase free of tax, and now, part time work (which must be approved). But still, Hua Hin compares well. There can't be many countries in the world that hand out one year visas on the spot for $20,000 dollars in the bank. (In Malaysia it's $40,000).
There are still a couple of things I'll have to deal with. The 24 hour reporting rule. I'll be in and out of Thailand every month or so. I'll report the first time to ask if it's necessary. But where? One reports to the police in Hua Hin or Immigration Hua Hin?
Second is the 90 day rule which I'm assuming doesn't concern me because I'll never be here longer than 45 days. So that helpful note stapled into my passport about notifiying Immigration my place or residence every 90 days, I can ignore, right?
Once again, thanks for the insights. If anyone is interested in MM2H I'm happy to reciprocate.
Congratulations!
This is really surprising, because I got my Non-Imm "O" visa from a 30 days entry stamp in Chiang Mai only for 90 days and had to collect it the next day.
About 24 hour reporting this is not at all clear. See:
http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/24 ... 12022.html
This is really surprising, because I got my Non-Imm "O" visa from a 30 days entry stamp in Chiang Mai only for 90 days and had to collect it the next day.
About 24 hour reporting this is not at all clear. See:
http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/24 ... 12022.html
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dtaai-maai
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You'd report to the HH immigration office, but if you're going to be in and out, I'd suggest chancing it giving it a miss, frankly - find out if at some point somebody says something. Unless, of course, you've nothing better to do on your first day back!PooftersFrothWyoming wrote:
There are still a couple of things I'll have to deal with. The 24 hour reporting rule. I'll be in and out of Thailand every month or so. I'll report the first time to ask if it's necessary. But where? One reports to the police in Hua Hin or Immigration Hua Hin?
Second is the 90 day rule which I'm assuming doesn't concern me because I'll never be here longer than 45 days. So that helpful note stapled into my passport about notifiying Immigration my place or residence every 90 days, I can ignore, right?
Secondly - right! (Unless, of course, you happen to be here for 90 days continuously)
This is the way
Shhhh, you can't say things like that round here, you'll get lynchedPooftersFrothWyoming wrote:I've dealt with immigration in many Asian countries in the last 35 years. Hua Hin was easily the best. Even better than Singapore. The staff were incredibly fast, efficient and businesslike. How they manage to keep their cool in the face of dramas played out in front of them daily
No, well done mate. I think how you approach officials here goes a long way to how smoothly things can go, and how minor discrepencies can be worked out.
SJ
I have asked this question on here previously:Norseman wrote:If you own the house where you are living; you repost to imm. every time you are back.
If you don't own the house, but are renting, you don't need to report.
It's the owner of the house where you're living that must do the reporting.
How do Immigration KNOW if you own your house, or you are renting?
I have extended my visa on a retirement basis for a couple of years now, and nowhere on the required documentation does it ask WHO owns the address that you provide.
May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead!
I rented a house in Hua Hin and some days later I wanted a certification of residence to buy a car. They tried to fine me AND the owner of the house. But I said that I had been moving in only the day before, so they only fined the owner.Norseman wrote:If you own the house where you are living; you repost to imm. every time you are back.
If you don't own the house, but are renting, you don't need to report.
It's the owner of the house where you're living that must do the reporting.
When I moved to my own house I went to Immigration to report the adress change, but they were not interested at all.
They just try to make some extra money, if there is an opportunity.
Maybe they store the colour of your tabienban in their brain when you make your one year visa extension?Nereus wrote: I have asked this question on here previously:
How do Immigration KNOW if you own your house, or you are renting?
I have extended my visa on a retirement basis for a couple of years now, and nowhere on the required documentation does it ask WHO owns the address that you provide.
Joking apart; I guess the only way to find this out is to forget about the reporting next time you're back in LOS and see if they later will fine you for not reporting.
I intend to live forever - so far so good.
I do exactly that, and have never been questioned, never mind fined. And this includes leaving the country and returning on a re-entry permit.Norseman wrote:Maybe they store the colour of your tabienban in their brain when you make your one year visa extension?Nereus wrote: I have asked this question on here previously:
How do Immigration KNOW if you own your house, or you are renting?
I have extended my visa on a retirement basis for a couple of years now, and nowhere on the required documentation does it ask WHO owns the address that you provide.
Joking apart; I guess the only way to find this out is to forget about the reporting next time you're back in LOS and see if they later will fine you for not reporting.
There are obviously people that have been fined, if we are to believe some of the posts on here. But I beleive that there is some other reason for it that we are not told about, and it has nothing to do with who owns your house.
May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil know`s you`re dead!
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Thanks for the comments on 24 hour reporting. This is from Immigration Bureau website:
'The notification of residence of foreign nationals within 24 hours can be made in a number of ways to make the notification as convenient as possible: In person at the respective office, or
Through an authorised person at the respective office, or
By registered mail, or
Via internet.'
So the question is: Does HH Immigration have an email address?
Nereus asked: 'How do Immigration KNOW if you own your house, or you are renting? '. In my case, they filed copies of the deeds to my apartment...
'The notification of residence of foreign nationals within 24 hours can be made in a number of ways to make the notification as convenient as possible: In person at the respective office, or
Through an authorised person at the respective office, or
By registered mail, or
Via internet.'
So the question is: Does HH Immigration have an email address?
Nereus asked: 'How do Immigration KNOW if you own your house, or you are renting? '. In my case, they filed copies of the deeds to my apartment...
Cannot understand this 24 hour reporting as it seems to apply to some and not to others. I have always had to do 24 report after reentering country, have asked many many times if I need to do it - answer always yes. Yet they only complete a form once then just scribble on the back of it at next report so no record kept apart from checking passport.
I did wonder if it has to do with my house being company owned and so I report myself back in on behalf of company ?
I did wonder if it has to do with my house being company owned and so I report myself back in on behalf of company ?
Never had to do it myself but friends have been fined, they don't own property so it seems completely random, probably depends on the day, the mood of the officer, the state of the farang, and the weight of the petty cash box.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
I could be wrong here, but people seem to be generally caught/fined when they ask for a residency letter.
I've been in and out of the country countless times over the years to the UK, Malaysia and Burma, yet never once has the issue of 24 hour reporting ever raised its head. I've had dealings with Imm here on other matters and they could have checked at that stage if they'd wanted to.
However, I've never had the need for a residency letter.
I've been in and out of the country countless times over the years to the UK, Malaysia and Burma, yet never once has the issue of 24 hour reporting ever raised its head. I've had dealings with Imm here on other matters and they could have checked at that stage if they'd wanted to.
However, I've never had the need for a residency letter.