Quote OP "This year there's been a new change in the regulations and it appears that I do not meet the requirements. I will have to leave the country every 3 months in order to obtain a non-immigrant visa to ''visit'' my wife. "
The only change i have even heard of is that HE must show an income of 40K
obviously he cannot do that, Either with income from abroad or from legal work permitted employment in Thailand
as an aside he doesnt seem to consider 800 k for a single retired gentleman of leasure a problem
My sense is that he lives of off is wifes income we have a name for that
sargeant wrote:Bapak let me clarify that because as far as i know there is a book with work farangs CANNOT DO and half a sheet with jobs they can do ..As far as i know that still applies to marriage visas and to work you MUST have a work permit
That also applies to any other visa so it is not something a marriage visa gives and the others dont. A work permit is a seperate entity as far as my knowledge goes
That book is out of date. You can get a work permit if you are on a Marriage Permit to Stay. I have a work involvement which makes me aware of such things. And just yesterday I saw a man change from Retirement to Marriage so that he could get a Work Permit for a job that was offered to him.
Check with the local Ministry of Labour office at PKK phone # 032 603824 or 032 602270 ext. 14 & 15
Bapak Dont tell Mrs Sarge she might start trying to sell my body
Seriously though you still have to qualify for a work permit under work permit rules
or are you saying there are seperate work permit rules for people on marriage visas
I think the point is that WPs can be issued from visas other than a Non B. It can be obtained from a Non Imm O as long as the applicant got the O visa/extension on the basis of marriage. If the visa was got on the basis of retirement, then there might be an obligation to get a Non B. I'm not sure about that.
If the applicant is married to a Thai, then they can change the extension from retirement to marriage, as has been said.
lomuamart wrote:I think the point is that WPs can be issued from visas other than a Non B. It can be obtained from a Non Imm O as long as the applicant got the O visa/extension on the basis of marriage. If the visa was got on the basis of retirement, then there might be an obligation to get a Non B. I'm not sure about that.
If the applicant is married to a Thai, then they can change the extension from retirement to marriage, as has been said.
Actually a WP can now be issued from any O Permit to Stay except Retirement.
i.e. recently saw WP issued on a O Permit to Stay based on visiting family.
bapak wrote:
Actually a WP can now be issued from any O Permit to Stay except Retirement.
i.e. recently saw WP issued on a O Permit to Stay based on visiting family.
Can you post the criteria for it? My WP has been on a B and M visa for the past 8 years, both of which become more restrictive every year so I (and probably any others in this category) would be interested to see what is required to get one on a marriage visa.
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bapak wrote:
Actually a WP can now be issued from any O Permit to Stay except Retirement.
i.e. recently saw WP issued on a O Permit to Stay based on visiting family.
Can you post the criteria for it? My WP has been on a B and M visa for the past 8 years, both of which become more restrictive every year so I (and probably any others in this category) would be interested to see what is required to get one on a marriage visa.
Actually, young man, same criteria as the issue for any WP... Employment offer from company that meets the usual conditions re capital, number of tax paying Thai employees, etc... The only exception I know is for a licenced school which can employ any number of farang teachers... and does not have to provide financial info or have "x" number of tax paying Thai staff.
Worth noting that under the new Employment Act 2008 you can now get WP renewals for 2 years as well as 1 year. Bit strange as it would be ahead of your extension to stay, but obviously the 2nd year would only be relevant once you've got your extension for that 2nd year.
sargeant wrote:I can understand them not wanting marriages of convenience but jeez i am in my 27th year of marriage to a Thai and all i ask is that i report once a year 90 day reporting is such a waste of time and energy.
I think a qualification period of say 3 or even 5 years max should prove it isnt a marriage of convenience
Yeah, but we all know there are a whole lot of "marriages of convenience" between foreign men and Thai women here in the LOS.
Do we? I know loads of guys who have brought Thai ladies to the UK, and don't know any who have had their wife run out on them on their arrival in the UK.
Yes, of course it must happen (not only in Thailand), but are the figures as high as the press would have us believe?
Or am I taking your comment out of context? Do you mean marrying a Thai for the Farang to get a better visa deal?
Quote Name taken"Yeah, but we all know there are a whole lot of "marriages of convenience" between foreign men and Thai women here in the LOS."
I dont know of any probably because there is nothing Visa or WP wise to be gained
It doesnt mean the Thai govt should open the flood gates for it like it was in the UK
Quote BB "Do we? I know loads of guys who have brought Thai ladies to the UK, and don't know any who have had their wife run out on them on their arrival in the UK. "
I only know of one and she came back to Thailand she couldnt settle
Don't know about that Sarge.
If you're under 50 and not working, how do you stay long-term in Thailand now unless you're married to a Thai? Visa exempt and tourist visas have been clamped down on to make it extremely difficult for people to stay here for extended periods on them.
If you're married to a Thai and meet the financial requirements, you can get single entry Non Os easily in the region and can also extend annually.
Having said that, I don't know of a marriage of convenience, but I bet they exist. That's why there's a proviso that Imm visit your house to check on whether the two people are living together. They can also speak to neighbours to check the marriage is genuine. I've never heard of them actually making the visit though, but again I bet it does happen.
buksida wrote:I'm surprised he missed out the fact that foreign men marrying Thai women get treated like shit while foreign women marrying Thai men automatically get the basic human rights that all married couples should be entitled to.
Hi there Buksida
Here's a comment from Bangkokpost's Comment box he gave his alias as "Jimbo" and give this explaination why Married foreign Husbands are being treated like shit. here's his cpmment.
With regards to the Immigration regulations for foreign spouses: What so many of you fail to see is that Thais in general view foreigners with disdain, and have nothing but contempt for the Thai women that allow themselves to sink so low to actually marry a foreign man. In fact Thai men view this as the ultimate insult: the Thai woman has turned her back on her country and its men and prefers instead a foreign devil. Remember until very recently Thai women who married foreign men automatically lost many rights.
Buksida I can tell you when a foreign woman marries a Thai Man they not get the same rights but also in some cases instantly raises the status of tthe Among his friends and family.
This was the case with one of my Univ. mate/fella I once call friend. we both liked the same Girl, she was from Land of hte rising Sun (Japan) Later me and my close circle of friends found out he married her and ain't invitin us to them Wedding that's why this couple ain't having our Blessings from us.
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