yellow fruits ideal to lower purine in the blood as they contain potassium.
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Anything with wings except aeroplanes you cant eat all high purines, green beans a non no too.
yellow fruits ideal to lower purine in the blood as they contain potassium.
yellow fruits ideal to lower purine in the blood as they contain potassium.
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The Mother in law will not eat chicken (except chicken feet) because of this.PET wrote:Thai's are very specific that too much chicken causes gout.
I have never heard of this in Europe etc but I have come across it in Thailand and when I originally questioned it with Thai's they all confirmed that too much chicken caused GOUT.
My Thai doctor said the same. It applies to Asians but he did not know if it applies to us paleskins. I can find no scientific study that confirms this.PET wrote:Thai's are very specific that too much chicken causes gout.
I have never heard of this in Europe etc but I have come across it in Thailand and when I originally questioned it with Thai's they all confirmed that too much chicken caused GOUT.
Incidentally, interesting so see the turn this discussion has taken. But still no suggestions as to immediate pain relief other than NSAID-based pain killers? No Chinese hokus-pokus?
Now, two weeks have passed since the original attack and the pain is slowly disappearing without medication. Especially the first week was tough. As soon as the pain is gone completely I will be back on allupurinol, supplemented by some of the long-time suggestions such as Roselle, Red Korean GinSeng, and perhaps organic lime fruit juice. Thanks y'all
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Thanks much. I will keep it in mind if the occassion should arise again.MrPlum wrote:The 3 limes/lemons suggestion was for rapid relief. Sorry. Should have made that clearer.Lung Per wrote:Incidentally, interesting so see the turn this discussion has taken. But still no suggestions as to immediate pain relief other than NSAID-based pain killers? No Chinese hokus-pokus?
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I shall refrain from any comments as to the relevance of your statement since you bluntly admit that you have not read the thread. - Yet you feel compelled to comment. Oh, well..... And I thought only women, politicians and chickens talked for the mere sake of talking...Gus wrote:I have only read this page of the topic, but I have had gout for 40 years or more. I take one Allopurinal per day and have had no problems since, when I first had gout the pain was Jep mak Mak.
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Re: Gout
Gout is no joke, despite cartoons of gluttonous aristocrat, his corpulent face contorted in pain and his swollen foot elevated on several pillows. Gout used to be called the 'rheumatism of the rich' and is now known to result from a metabolic flaw, an enzyme deficiency; it is not caused by, but only aggravated by, overindulgence in food and drink.
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cut and paste from a ebook i have
NATURE CURE
Gout
Gout refers to a certain form of inflammation of the joints and swellings of a recurrent type.
Although chronic in character, it breaks in acute attacks. It is a disease of the wealthy and chiefly
affects middle-aged men. Women, after menopause, are also sometimes affected by this
disease.
Gout was known to the physicians of ancient Greece and Rome. The classical description was
written in 1663 by Sydenham, himself a life-long sufferer , who clearly differentiated it from other
joint disorders. It was recognised in the 18th century that large enjoyable meals and the
consumption of alcoholic drinks were often the prelude to an attack of gout. This disease
affected many famous men in history, including Alexander the Great, Luther, Newton, Milton, Dr.
Johnson, Franklin and Louis XIV.
Symptoms
An attack of gout is usually accompanied by acute pain in the big toe, which becomes tender,
hot and swollen in a few hours. Usually, it is almost impossible to put any weight on the affected
foot during the acute stage of the disease. It may also similarly affect other joints such as the
knees, and the wrists, and sometimes more than one joint may be affected at a time. The attack
usually occurs at midnight or in the early hours of the morning, when the patient is suddenly
awakened. The acute attack generally lasts for a week or so. During this period the patient may
run a slight fever, and feel disinclined to eat. His general health generally remains unaffected.
The attack may occur again after several weeks or months. The interval becomes shorter if the
disease is not treated properly. The joint generally becomes damaged by arthritis. This is chronic
gout, in which chalky lumps of uric acid crystals remain in the joint and also form under the skin.
Another serious complication of gout is kidney stones containing uric acid, causing severe colic
pains in the stomach.
In some cases the kidneys become damaged and do not function properly. This is a serious
condition as the poisonous waste products which are normally removed by the kidneys
accumulate in the blood.
Causes
The chief cause of gout is the formation of uric acid crystals in the joints, skin and kidneys. Uric
acid is an end product of the body’s chemical processes. Those affected by gout have a higher
level of uric acid than the normal, due either to the formation of increased or reduced amounts of
acid being passed out by the kidneys in the urine. This uric acid usually remains dissolved in the
blood. But when the blood becomes too full of it, the uric acid forms needle-shaped crystals in
the joints which bring about attacks of gout.
Heredity is an important factor in causing this disease and certain races are prone to gout. Other
causes include excessive intake of alcoholic drinks, regular eating of foods rich in protein and
carbohydrates and lack of proper exercise. Stress is also regarded as an important cause of
gout. During the alarm reaction, millions of body cells are destroyed and large quantities of uric
acid freed from these cells enter the tissues after being neutralised by sodium.
Treatment
For an acute attack, there is no better remedy than a fast. The patient should undertake a fast
for five to seven days on orange juice and water. Sometimes the condition may worsen in the
early stages of fasting when uric acid, dissolved by juices, is thrown into the bloodstream for
elimination. This usually clears up if fasting is continued. In severe cases, it is advisable to
undertake a series of short fasts for three days or so rather than one long fast. A warm water
enema should be used daily during the period of fasting to cleanse the bowels.
After the acute symptoms of gout have subsided, the patient may adopt an all-fruit diet for a
Gout have subsided, the patient may adopt an all-fruit diet for a furter three or four days. In this regimen, he should have three meals a day of juicy fruits such as
grapes, apples, pears, peaches, oranges and pineapple. After the all-fruit diet, the patient may
gradually embark upon the following diet :
Breakfast : Fruits such as oranges, apples, figs, apricot, mangoes, whole wheat bread or dalia
and milk or butter-milk.
Lunch : Steamed vegetables such as lettuce, beets, celery, water-cress, turnips,squash,
carrots, tomatoes, cabbage and potatoes, chappatis of whole wheat flour, cottage cheese and
butter-milk.
Dinner : Sprouts such as alfalfa and mung beans, a good-sized salad of raw vegetables such as
carrots, cabbage, tomatoes, whole wheat bread and butter.
The patient should avoid all purine and uric acid producing foods such as all meats, eggs, and
fish. Glandular meats are especially harmful. He should also avoid all intoxicating liquors, tea,
coffee, sugar, white flour and its products and all canned and processed foods. Spices and salts
should be used as little as possible.
The cherry, sweet or sour, is considered an effective remedy for gout. This was discovered by
Ludwig W. Blan Ph.D. some 35 years ago. Himself a gout sufferer, Blan Ph.D. some cherries to
be miraculously effective in his own case and published his own experience in a medical journal.
Subsequently, many people with gout used this simple therapy with great success. To start with,
the patient should consume about 15 to 25 cherries a day. Thereafter, about 10 cherries a day
will keep the ailment under control. While fresh cherries are best, canned cherries can also be
used with success.
Foods high in potassium such as potatoes, bananas, leafy green vegetables, beans and raw
vegetable juices are protective against gout. Carrot juice in combination with juices of beet and
cucumber, is especially valuable. 100 ml. each of beet and cucumber juices should be mixed in
300 ml. of carrot juice to make 500 ml. of combined juice.
The juice of French or string beans has also proved effective in the treatment of gout. About 150
ml. of this juice should be taken by the patient suffering from this disease. Raw potato juice and
fresh pineapple juices are also beneficial.
The feet should be bathed in Epsom salt foot bath twice daily. Half a pound to one pound of salt
may be added to a foot bath of hot water. Full Empsom salt baths should also be taken three
times a week. The baths may be reduced to two per week later. Cold packs at night, applied to
the affected joints, will be beneficial. Fresh air and outdoor exercise are also essential. The
patient should eliminate as much stress from his life as possible.
could be bull for all i know
NATURE CURE
Gout
Gout refers to a certain form of inflammation of the joints and swellings of a recurrent type.
Although chronic in character, it breaks in acute attacks. It is a disease of the wealthy and chiefly
affects middle-aged men. Women, after menopause, are also sometimes affected by this
disease.
Gout was known to the physicians of ancient Greece and Rome. The classical description was
written in 1663 by Sydenham, himself a life-long sufferer , who clearly differentiated it from other
joint disorders. It was recognised in the 18th century that large enjoyable meals and the
consumption of alcoholic drinks were often the prelude to an attack of gout. This disease
affected many famous men in history, including Alexander the Great, Luther, Newton, Milton, Dr.
Johnson, Franklin and Louis XIV.
Symptoms
An attack of gout is usually accompanied by acute pain in the big toe, which becomes tender,
hot and swollen in a few hours. Usually, it is almost impossible to put any weight on the affected
foot during the acute stage of the disease. It may also similarly affect other joints such as the
knees, and the wrists, and sometimes more than one joint may be affected at a time. The attack
usually occurs at midnight or in the early hours of the morning, when the patient is suddenly
awakened. The acute attack generally lasts for a week or so. During this period the patient may
run a slight fever, and feel disinclined to eat. His general health generally remains unaffected.
The attack may occur again after several weeks or months. The interval becomes shorter if the
disease is not treated properly. The joint generally becomes damaged by arthritis. This is chronic
gout, in which chalky lumps of uric acid crystals remain in the joint and also form under the skin.
Another serious complication of gout is kidney stones containing uric acid, causing severe colic
pains in the stomach.
In some cases the kidneys become damaged and do not function properly. This is a serious
condition as the poisonous waste products which are normally removed by the kidneys
accumulate in the blood.
Causes
The chief cause of gout is the formation of uric acid crystals in the joints, skin and kidneys. Uric
acid is an end product of the body’s chemical processes. Those affected by gout have a higher
level of uric acid than the normal, due either to the formation of increased or reduced amounts of
acid being passed out by the kidneys in the urine. This uric acid usually remains dissolved in the
blood. But when the blood becomes too full of it, the uric acid forms needle-shaped crystals in
the joints which bring about attacks of gout.
Heredity is an important factor in causing this disease and certain races are prone to gout. Other
causes include excessive intake of alcoholic drinks, regular eating of foods rich in protein and
carbohydrates and lack of proper exercise. Stress is also regarded as an important cause of
gout. During the alarm reaction, millions of body cells are destroyed and large quantities of uric
acid freed from these cells enter the tissues after being neutralised by sodium.
Treatment
For an acute attack, there is no better remedy than a fast. The patient should undertake a fast
for five to seven days on orange juice and water. Sometimes the condition may worsen in the
early stages of fasting when uric acid, dissolved by juices, is thrown into the bloodstream for
elimination. This usually clears up if fasting is continued. In severe cases, it is advisable to
undertake a series of short fasts for three days or so rather than one long fast. A warm water
enema should be used daily during the period of fasting to cleanse the bowels.
After the acute symptoms of gout have subsided, the patient may adopt an all-fruit diet for a
Gout have subsided, the patient may adopt an all-fruit diet for a furter three or four days. In this regimen, he should have three meals a day of juicy fruits such as
grapes, apples, pears, peaches, oranges and pineapple. After the all-fruit diet, the patient may
gradually embark upon the following diet :
Breakfast : Fruits such as oranges, apples, figs, apricot, mangoes, whole wheat bread or dalia
and milk or butter-milk.
Lunch : Steamed vegetables such as lettuce, beets, celery, water-cress, turnips,squash,
carrots, tomatoes, cabbage and potatoes, chappatis of whole wheat flour, cottage cheese and
butter-milk.
Dinner : Sprouts such as alfalfa and mung beans, a good-sized salad of raw vegetables such as
carrots, cabbage, tomatoes, whole wheat bread and butter.
The patient should avoid all purine and uric acid producing foods such as all meats, eggs, and
fish. Glandular meats are especially harmful. He should also avoid all intoxicating liquors, tea,
coffee, sugar, white flour and its products and all canned and processed foods. Spices and salts
should be used as little as possible.
The cherry, sweet or sour, is considered an effective remedy for gout. This was discovered by
Ludwig W. Blan Ph.D. some 35 years ago. Himself a gout sufferer, Blan Ph.D. some cherries to
be miraculously effective in his own case and published his own experience in a medical journal.
Subsequently, many people with gout used this simple therapy with great success. To start with,
the patient should consume about 15 to 25 cherries a day. Thereafter, about 10 cherries a day
will keep the ailment under control. While fresh cherries are best, canned cherries can also be
used with success.
Foods high in potassium such as potatoes, bananas, leafy green vegetables, beans and raw
vegetable juices are protective against gout. Carrot juice in combination with juices of beet and
cucumber, is especially valuable. 100 ml. each of beet and cucumber juices should be mixed in
300 ml. of carrot juice to make 500 ml. of combined juice.
The juice of French or string beans has also proved effective in the treatment of gout. About 150
ml. of this juice should be taken by the patient suffering from this disease. Raw potato juice and
fresh pineapple juices are also beneficial.
The feet should be bathed in Epsom salt foot bath twice daily. Half a pound to one pound of salt
may be added to a foot bath of hot water. Full Empsom salt baths should also be taken three
times a week. The baths may be reduced to two per week later. Cold packs at night, applied to
the affected joints, will be beneficial. Fresh air and outdoor exercise are also essential. The
patient should eliminate as much stress from his life as possible.
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I don't think my wife would go for it.Rob W wrote: The
patient should eliminate as much stress from his life as possible.
The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.
