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:D Well done! Big Boy was ahead at the winning post. Yes great train...I have been on it! We used to go from Bournemouth to Waterloo in 1957! Of course I was a small child then :P We used to have lunch in the dining car, very grand as I recall, would love to go on it now 8)
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Ok....Sandys back with another history 3X3 fully revved up brain tickler
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1) Name all three mechanised metal lovlies
2) What is the hidden link between all three?
3) Based on answer 2 which one is the odd one out?

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sandman67 wrote:Ok....Sandys back with another history 3X3 fully revved up brain tickler
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1) Name all three mechanised metal lovlies
2) What is the hidden link between all three?
3) Based on answer 2 which one is the odd one out?

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Porche Rover Ford Consul
London to Sydney rally?
Porche odd one out as it has a rear engine?
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Porsche Spyder
Rover 3500 V8
Ford Consul MK 2

Good shout Siani, but I think mid-engine is too obvious.

Thinking......... :roll: :?
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pharvey wrote:Porsche Spyder
Rover 3500 V8
Ford Consul MK 2

Good shout Siani, but I think mid-engine is too obvious.

Thinking......... :roll: :?
The Ford Consul is a Mk 1, not Mk 2. I owned it`s big brother the Zephyr up until a couple of years ago.

The Rover is a P6, 3500 V8, which I also had and sold along with the Zephyr.

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Ok, so we got...

Porsche Spyder
Rover 3500 V8
Ford Consul Mk 1

The link is...
...famous personalities have gone to meet their makers in them...
James Dean (Porsche Spyder)
Grace Kelly (Rover 3500)
Eddie Cochrane (Ford Consul)

Odd one out...
Eddie Cochrane - a passenger, not driving
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kalbow wrote:Ok, so we got...

Porsche Spyder
Rover 3500 V8
Ford Consul Mk 1

The link is...
...famous personalities have gone to meet their makers in them...
James Dean (Porsche Spyder)
Grace Kelly (Rover 3500)
Eddie Cochrane (Ford Consul)

Odd one out...
Eddie Cochrane - a passenger, not driving
Well, that is an interesting answer, but Eddie Cochrane was killed when the taxi he was travelling in had an accident. I would have to question if the taxi was a convertible, as they only had 2 doors and would not be very practical as a taxi. :?
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Nereus wrote:
Well, that is an interesting answer, but Eddie Cochrane was killed when the taxi he was travelling in had an accident. I would have to question if the taxi was a convertible, as they only had 2 doors and would not be very practical as a taxi. :?
Absolutely, correct Nereus. I think Sandman should have included a picture of the Mk II as that's the model Mr. Cochran was traveling in - from what I can make out in the pic.

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Yes kalbow, that is the remains of a Mk 2 Zephyr. What a mess! :cheers:
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Kalbow gets the choccy glazed donut of love

Porsche Spyder - James Dean
Rover P6 (thats a photo of the last one ever made) - Grace Kelly
Ford Consul (a private hire taxi) - Eddie Cochran

The cars that killed the stars

And also correct is the Consul/Odd man out - Cochran was a passenger whilst Kelly and Dean were the drivers.

Alternate answer - Consul/Cochran as Eddie was a rock musician that appeared in 2 films. Dean and Kelly were both film stars.

Whilst legend abounds around the car that killed Dean - "The Little Bastard" - carrying a curse that saw parts of it cause more death and injury, these are mainly uban legend....and stubbed thumbs and broken legs a curse do not make.

The facts concerning Cochrans crash are much stranger.

In the car with him was Gene Vincent, who already had a gammy leg. The crash made this condition much much worse, eventually leading to Vincents early retirement from the rock n roll scene....thus the accident ended two careers early.

A young police officer in the station where the crash wreckage and evidence was taken was Dave Dee who learned to play guitar using Cochrans guitar that was in the impounded evidence locker. Dave went onto be a rock star in his own band.

The selfsame guitar had earlier in the tour been loaded into the same car boot by a very young Marc Bolan, who was roadying at the venue. Marc of course went on to become a similarly fast fame shooting star, only to die young in a car crash as his career was reaching its peak.

Was it the car?
Was it the guitar?
Or was it all just the mad gods laughing and playing dice?
Ooooeeeeooooooeeeeoooooo.....

My dad was an old style blue drape rocker, so I grew up on a steady diet of Eddie Cochran, Gene Vincent, The Big Bopper, Jerry Lee Lewis and of course The King.

I still listen to Eddie and Gene and Jerry to this day.

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An addendum to rock stars and car deaths is:
Marc Bolan died on 16 September 1977, two weeks before his 30th birthday He was a passenger in a purple Mini 1275GT driven by Gloria Jones as they headed home from Mortons drinking club and restaurant in Berkeley Square. Jones lost control of the car and it struck a sycamore tree after failing to negotiate a small humpback bridge near Gipsy Lane on Queens Ride, Barnes, Bolan died instantly, while Jones suffered a broken arm and broken jaw and spent time in hospital; Bolan's home, which was less than a mile away at 142 Upper Richmond Road West in East Sheen, was quickly looted. Fans quickly turned the site of the crash into a shrine and in 2007 the site was officially recognised as Bolan's Rock Shrine.


Bolan never learned to drive, fearing a premature death.
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Here's a quick and easy one...

What's the connection between these two pics...
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And also correct is the Consul/Odd man out - ..........................................
No, it is not correct. Not the car at all. Not much point in giving completely wrong clues.
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On Saturday, April 16, 1960, at about 11.50 pm, while on tour in the United Kingdom, 21-year-old Cochran died in a traffic accident in a taxi (a Ford Consul, not, as widely quoted, a London Hackney carriage).
Picture 2 is a Ford Consul - image taken from the relevant Wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Consul

It may not be a hard top, but it is still a Ford Consul. Im not a car geek so one is much the same as another IMHO....sorry.

My bad

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kalbow wrote:Here's a quick and easy one...

What's the connection between these two pics...
The Doobie Brothers drummer, Michael Hossack, served in the US Navy. But that ship shown is a post Vietnam era vessel, so he may not have served on that particular ship. :?
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