What's up with The Open announcers and links courses?

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What's up with The Open announcers and links courses?

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Ok, let me start off by saying that most of my friends here are from Britain and I'm not trying to insult your commentators or courses, but what's up?

I first noticed this during last years open. The announcers, especially the esteemed and Peter Alice and one of the younger Brit announcers (sorry, didn't get his name) make so many mistakes that it seems unbelievable sometimes. As I said I saw it happen many times last year and this year while only half paying attention I've caught them saying someone was 4 under par when in fact they were 4 over and 1 over par when in fact they were 1 under, as well as getting one golfer confused with another at one point, and a few times getting the hole number or what stroke to par on the hole the golfer was playing. It seems to happen a lot.

I've seen the occasional mistake like those on a U.S. PGA telecast but it is immediately corrected by the offending announcer as someone else points it out to him... not on these ESPN Open broadcasts with BBC announcers... they just let the errors fly right by.

Also, are there any trees or lakes in Britain? Every Open I remember watching (and I try to watch all the majors) are in (what I guess links courses are) what looks like a treeless pasture with not a drop of water to hit over... ever. The only water seen is the sea beside the course. I realize that the difficulty comes in the undulating greens, and hog-backed never level fairways, the wind, cold, rain, and the deep pot bunkers, but come on, is there a course with a tree or lake on it anywhere over there?

All the courses look desolate from the aerial shots. Compare with Augusta or Pebble Beach...

Anyway, as I said, not meant to offend but the biggest major in the game seems like it should have better announcers and a more picturesque venue. :duck: :duck: :duck: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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I agree with you over the commentators. The courses Sandwich is a links course over natural land, not an artificial made up course. Both have different degrees of difficulty and views which makes the game. Personally I prefer course which fit into the landscape.
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I think its called history HH, for both the courses and the commentators.

Plenty of courses over here with lakes, brooks, rivers and trees - some even placed there by nature - and in my golf playing days, usually on public courses, I lost enough balls in the water to prove it!

But why muck around with what has served so well for so many years, isn't that part of the allure - the history? With links courses in particular, you list all the things that make them such a challenge, who needs an artificial pond when the splendour of the sea is the back drop?

We could however, happily muck around with history when it commes to Peter Allis, who should have been put out to seed long ago! I don't watch much golf and when I do, as I am with the open, it always surprises me that he's still wheeled out to do his bit.
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Peter Allis! Great guy but commentary quality depends on how much brandy he has consumed. What he paved the way for was taking golf, it's complexities to the non playing golf viewers.

All sport now is easily watchable and with professional (ex player) commentators, the complexities of golf, cricket, squash, tennis, F! are relayed to many who have no idea of what's involved

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Making comparisons between relatively easy US courses and the real thing in the UK is the fact that the later are naturally developed as opposed to created and manicured. according to a plan

Just compare the winning score factors. US 10 to 15 under par. UK 3 to 5 under par is an indication, but I'm no expert. Only played about a dozen US and Canadian courses as opposed to umpteen in Africa, England and Scotland and I was a high handicapper (10)
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Hi HHF, I love Peter Alliss comenetary, even though they do make mistakes, its full of fun and cahracter - remember Murray Walker comentating on Formula 1! What a laugh!
My favourite comentators (in know particular order) Alliss, Mark James, Faldo, Johhny Miller, Gary Mcord, Feherty.

Onto golf courses - Uk has a wide array of courses, but Opens are always played on links courses, they are bloody hard and probably the greatest test of a golfers skill anywhere in the world - the variety and array of shots is incredible and the very beautiful and consistent weather we get in UK ( :shock: ) then you have an allround test of golf which is tough to beat. We have fantastic inland courses which are tree lined and many courses do have water hazzards (often streams or small rivers), not many have the huge lake systems popular in hotter climates as we get enough rain naturally!

There are amazing courses everywhere and USA has thousands of places that would be a dream to play! Places like Whistling Straits and Kiawah Island spring to mind as some pretty brutal courses that produce winning scores around par.

Anyway, I think that Darren Clarke is a great winner, i did hope Phil would keep coming (but not too much) to make it a real nail biter but a fanstatic Open again. 3 major chamos from Northern Island - how crazy is that!

BTW lets think again about Mr Watson, HOW GOOD IS THIS GUY, he plays ridiculoulsy well and if he had a little better luck with the draw he could have finshed top 10 again. Is there a better advert for the game of golf.... I really dont think so. :bow:
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^ Yes, Watson is one week younger than me and still has a near perfect swing... and a hole in one! His putting is what has let him down of late.

Two Open majors in a row from Northern Irish golfers, one possibly one of the youngest pros from there and one probably close to the oldest of the still active pros from there... amazing! Good on 'em. Darren Clarke played a beautiful tournament from beginning to end.

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Though I have never been much of a golfer (a cheer from friends when I make a clear hit of the ball after the 7th try will tell me that) the sport has so much going for it...

1. You can play into your older years - and it seems, still be damn good at it.

2. A lot of business deals are/were done on the golf course.

3. The time it takes for a round and the walking that's needed allows needed exercise for older folks and room for conversation between golfers making it very much a social event.

Though I'm crap... here's to golf. :cheers: :cheers:
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You can also play with a few beers too... right Lomu!!! :thumb:
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A beer can definitely kickstart a round that isn't going too well after a few holes. The trick is knowing when to stop so you don't lose all sense of your swing and distance. I havn't quite worked the last part out yet :cheers:
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