Cash registers, cashiers & change

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CASH REGISTERS:

I've noticed at several stores with computerized cash registers that they only display the "change due to the customer" on the monitor for a very short time ... not long enough to actually still be displayed when the change is handed to the customer. Why is that? I could see maybe killing the display when the till drawer is closed, but it doesn't display the change amount even that long. For sure, that's true at Villa Market, and I'm pretty sure it's true at Tesco. All I know is that it is predictable that when the cashier hands me the change, I instinctively look at the monitor, and it's too late. (At Tesco, it may be when the till drawer is closed, but if so, then don't close the bloody drawer until the customer has his change. That way, when there's a mistake, it can be corrected without a major hassle of getting a supervisor or waiting until the next customer's purchases have been rung up and the till drawer opens again.)

At 7-11 I regularly buy 1-litre bottles of tea. However, I've learned that if you buy more than one, there is a small discount taken when the cashier presses the final Total key on the register. As each item is scanned, it shows the item price and the running total. Today for three bottles it showed B90 as the clerk waited for me to hand her the money. Then -- only after handing her my money -- she presses the final Total and the total changes to B82. Why in the blue blazes don't they press the Total key BEFORE waiting for the customer to dig out the money? I usually strive to give exact change, and EVERY SINGLE TIME, I would fumble to reassemble the proper coins. It took me several times to figure out why the total due amount changed at the last minute. Now, I routinely just give them the displayed amount of say, B154, and let them give me change for the reduced total due of B146.

CASHIERS & CHANGE:

Now, for the real puzzler. How/why do cashiers determine the denominations of bills/coins to give the customer? A few examples:

Just home from Villa Market, and my change due was B653. She gave me a B500 note, 3x B50 and the coins. Those were her last three B50 notes AND there was a stack of B100 notes in the drawer. Why 3x B50, and not 1x B100 + 1x B50. Why exhaust the supply of B50 notes?

(When I asked to change 2x B50 for 1x B100 while the till drawer was open, she gave me an angry look that could kill. Then she put everything back in the drawer except the B500 and started counting again. Because she couldn't see the change due on her monitor -- see above -- she abruptly snatched the receipt so she could squint at the printout. Goodness. Just put back 2x B50 in the drawer, and pull out 1x B100.)

This afternoon at the 7-11, my change was B65. I received 6x 10B + 1x 5B coins, when there were plenty of B50 and B20 notes in the till.

Is there some superstition involved with not giving large bills/coins? (If so, why not just give the change in all B1 coins? :naughty: ) I've been noticing this practice more and more, so it's not just an occasional, accidental mistake. There must be a reason for it. I wonder if it's like how hospitals give out bags of medicines after each visit so the patient doesn't feel cheated. (That's how I've heard that explained.) Do Thais somehow feel they have more money if they have more bills and coins in their pocket?
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Isn't it just to save time when their shift finishes and are cashing up so would otherwise have to count loads of small denomination notes and coins ?

At 7-11 perhaps they don't total it up until they're sure the customer doesn't remember something else at the last moment so wait to see you tendering the cash before finalising the bill.
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Before we had electronic cash registers, the way to count out change due (in the West) was to start with the sale price and take small change first followed by notes. Counting up to the value of the note/coin tendered.
(Hope you're following this!)
So if the sale was say 25 pence stirling and the customer gave a 2 pound coin the cashier counts out a 5 pence coin, then 2 x 10s or 1 x 20, then a 50 pence and finally a pound coin. Total 1.75 change. Easy peasy.
Unfortunately that meant people had to be able to count and add up as the went along.
If Thai cashiers were able to follow this same procedure though when counting out change they wouldn't have a problem. What they are actually doing is reading the amount of change due and picking it out of the drawer in denominations which are easiest for them to count. Which of course means taking out the big notes/coins first.

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margaretcarnes wrote:.............
Unfortunately that meant people had to be able to count and add up as they went along.............
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Nice one Mags - therin lies the problem

The use of modern tills and calculators to do simple tings like provide the correct change has taken away the need for intelligence! :roll:
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For your answers please refer to the "Thai Logic" thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19015

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No calculator / computer and they are lost. It always makes me smile to see the look of astonishment on a cashiers face when you give them the right amount of money without needing the register to add it up for you.
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Or tell them the correct amount of change required from the amount tendered!
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I also am amused if, for example, the total is B687, and I give them B707 and they try to refuse the B7, because "you give me too much". And, then the look of amazement when the register tells them to give me B20 change ... I appear to be some mathematic wizard!
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wpcoe wrote:I also am amused if, for example, the total is B687, and I give them B707 and they try to refuse the B7, because "you give me too much". And, then the look of amazement when the register tells them to give me B20 change ... I appear to be some mathematic wizard!

Hehehe, I tried that at tesco in Pranburi. The 2 checkout girls just looked at me mystified. :thumb:
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littlebird wrote:No calculator / computer and they are lost. It always makes me smile to see the look of astonishment on a cashiers face when you give them the right amount of money without needing the register to add it up for you.
Sadly it happens in the UK now as well. Last month the till where I work went kapput. The guy working it needed to give customer change from a tenner, but couldn't open the till. This guy has a degree in IT. I asked him to pass me the bill - added it up in my head - told him how much change the customer needed (which wasn't much and we could have given it out of our pockets and sorted it later) and he just looked gobsmacked. Clearly didn't believe me.
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The fast food places over here now have keys on their registers with the name of the food, no numbers needed.
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Being short-sighted my gripe about cash registers is that some with LED displays are so poorly visible that I have great difficulty reading the amount due (even with glasses). One of the worst offenders are those of Tesco Lotus. Is it only me or does anyone else have the same problem?
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magobligin wrote:Being short-sighted my gripe about cash registers is that some with LED displays are so poorly visible that I have great difficulty reading the amount due (even with glasses). One of the worst offenders are those of Tesco Lotus. Is it only me or does anyone else have the same problem?
No, it is not only you. Even with my new super see all specs I agree that Tesco is the worst.
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My habit most resistant to change is paying with bills & coins so I get only bills back. Today at Tesco Lotus the bill was 244.50. I gave her 1044.50 so I'd get 800 in change She input it as 1040.50, the receipt said my change was 797 and she gave me 790. With a smile I pointed out I had given her 1044.50. After a conversation with the next cashier, she gives me another 100, bringing the total change she gave me to 890. Yes, I gave her back the 90.
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There is surely talk in the cashier break rooms that the Farangs are out to get them. :laugh: Pete :cheers:
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