Foreigners that can't be helped/Nightmare neighbours

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Foreigners that can't be helped/Nightmare neighbours

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I moved into a new house in an average estate about a year ago and the house opposite has been empty thus far. The people who built it wanted to move elsewhere but wanted too much for it so no Thais bought it. The neighbours on each side are fairly typical for such a place, one a close-to-retirement police officer with the arrogant sons that like 'swanning around' in cars they haven't earned whilst dumping their screaming kids there for the grandparents to take care of for them while they pretend to work...and the other side is some young couple that's hardly ever there as they work elsewhere.

Enter the foreigner, who hasn't been here at all and that can't be helped, and who buys the house (cash) opposite and it's over-priced. He's 64 and married to a tinglish speaking Thai woman of 60 who believes her English is perfect and continually tries to talk to everyone she sees all the time whilst refusing to realise that many people want to be left alone most of the time, leads him around like a puppy-dog, he's not allowed to complain (or even speak most of the time), he has no car and gets taken around by his wife's niece who seems to be continually stealing money off him through her aunt (for example stripped him when they gave him the price for sorting out the garden). It seems to be all about controlling him and limiting his exposure to anything unless escorted and in a controlled environment.

He invites himself round to my gaff on his wife's orders, as she has one of those buzzsaw voices that carries and makes windows shake, after they had a two day (no shit) argument about him complaining that she had emptied his bank account to refurbish her nieces house so that her sister could live there. :roll:

So he comes round and starts talking so I give him a few facts about being here and that he should watch it with the extended family if they helping themselves to you bank account. He sat there and took it all in, drank a beer, when home and they argued a bit more, his wife freaked out and banned him from going to talk to me, then his niece came round and would leave because she had taken a dislike to me for some reason.

I mean, WTF is wrong with some folk? I did mention that he had invited himself round my house on the directions of his crocodile wife without an invitation and I get the label of the boogie-man for telling him the truth.

I don't like to see foreigners getting stripped in such an environment, if it was a bar or down Sukhumvit then fine as it goes with the territory, but in front of my face in such an organised manner is a bit tight.

However, up to him, not my business but you can't help but have an opinion on it when you see it in the neighbours.

It's complete farce, maybe I should put up a sign outside my house saying "No salesmen, uninvited guests or lunatics". :roll:

I know we hear the horror stories but I spoke to my Mrs about it and she said it's really bad that the family are conspiring to suck everything out of him and that it's good example of where some of the many bad stories about Thailand come from.

There are definitely some lost causes and unfortunately it's got to the situation where within 4 weeks of them moving in it's already a case of everyone 86ing everyone else. Not that I really care as I moved in this place to get away from the hustle & bustle and to be left alone for a quieter life nearer to where I work. Fortunately for me, they only spend a month or two here at a time and then go back to New Zealand for 4 months or something....so fairly lucky on that front, I guess.

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Look on the bright side, maybe they'll leave you alone when they move here permanently.
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As you allude to, some people just can't be helped. I find it hard to have too much sympathy for grown adults who just can't stand up for themselves. It's sad but if he was back home, he'd probably find people to take advantage of him there.
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Don't know what would be worse ,your current type of neighbour or you could have the forever-drinking,wife-bashing "golden gift to the world"(in their view of course) self pleasing falang pricks that some have as neighbours.
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You aren't his babysitter. Up to him how to figure it out.
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Poor bastard. Probably doesn't speak the lingo and is married to a very possessive, greedy, uneducated (issan) Thai. On the bright side when he runs out of money he will have to move on and the "family" will be unable to exist most likely and will have to sell to help with the next cane harvest, sick water buffalo, dying grandmother, niece's 3 times removed education, etc etc. Hang in!
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Once met an 84 year old man. Nicest person you could ever meet. Had a hard-core, middle-aged Thai lady in tow, who knew she had struck the mother lode and was determined that nothing would stop her collecting. I feared for his safety when she spirited him away into the countryside. Great shame.

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You should know that telling him straight might set him against his wife. A bit like telling a man his g/f is sleeping with his best friend. Should you? Shouldn't you? It's a dilemma. Experience tells me both parties end up shooting the messenger.
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Neutered! :cry: It seems to me that any foreigner that wants to "own" a house rather than rent is going to be held hostage to some extent, hopefully not as much as the OP's example. Whether spoken out loud or not, both husband and wife know who owns the house and who will be out if things turn bad. Even the most stable relationships have that hanging over the heads a little bit. Alot of leverage is given away unless the foreigner has enough $ to be able to walk away from a house and relationship if things go south.
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Should you try to help or should you 'mind your own business"

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You can lead a horse to water situation..Now up to the horse to drink.. You tried so leave it at that..As Some people do not listen and have to find out the painful way. Just think you can watch from the sidelines and chuckle I guess.
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Spitfire....if I was you, I'd just mind my own business. You tried to help, but as you've seen, your advice went in one ear and out the other. To be fair, I don't really think things are that much different in the west. I've known plenty of guys who have got married and subsequently been "banned" from seeing their mates.

In Thailand I've even seen neighbors move elsewhere because the Farang husband became friends with a few guys in the soi. I guess it's a mix of greed and insecurity, and a guy that's just not able to stand up for himself. I'm the first one to acknowledge that in a relationship, both have to be willing to give and take, but I also believe there should be limits.


Anyway, you tried, she won...................you just go ahead and enjoy a cold one. :cheers:
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Takiap wrote:Spitfire....if I was you, I'd just mind my own business. You tried to help, but as you've seen, your advice went in one ear and out the other. To be fair, I don't really think things are that much different in the west. I've known plenty of guys who have got married and subsequently been "banned" from seeing their mates.

In Thailand I've even seen neighbors move elsewhere because the Farang husband became friends with a few guys in the soi. I guess it's a mix of greed and insecurity, and a guy that's just not able to stand up for himself. I'm the first one to acknowledge that in a relationship, both have to be willing to give and take, but I also believe there should be limits.


Anyway, you tried, she won...................you just go ahead and enjoy a cold one. :cheers:
Allow me a small correction there: In a marriage with a Thai it's a question of give and take; The husband giveth and the wife taketh.
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Lung Per wrote:.............Allow me a small correction there: In a marriage with a Thai it's a question of give and take; The husband giveth and the wife taketh.
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Lung Per wrote:Allow me a small correction there: In a marriage with a Thai it's a question of give and take; The husband giveth and the wife taketh.
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Lung Per.......If you knew me and/or my wife, you'd realize just far off the mark you are because my wife giveth considerably more than she taketh, and I certainly doubt I'm the only one married to a decent Thai woman.



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