Immigration and money in the bank

[lomuamart]

You didn't mention the date of June 2013 before. You also say that your visa has expired.
If those two facts are correct, then you'll be stamped in until June 2013 after your two trips abroad in December - as long as you get re-entry permits for them. If you don't get the re-entries and your visa has expired, you will lose your permitted to stay date when you exit. You will only be entitled to 30 days when you return.
You don't renew the OA any more unless you go back home to do so. You get an annual extension to the OA visa on the basis of retirement from Imm here in HH. Yes, you will always need a re-entry permit when traveling after you've extended. The multiple re-entry permit serves the same purpose as a multiple visa. They are different, in fact, but in practice will allow you the same flexibility of travel.
Note that with the extension, you'll always be stamped back in up until the date the extension expires - you don't get another year as you have had before with the OA visa.
Just looked at your second post above. Where does the date of 6th Feb 2013 come from? What we need to know is how long you're permitted to stay after your last trip out - Feb or June 2013?
Have you got a Non O or Non OA visa? If OA, there's no such thing as a 90 day extension.
Can you get the dates correct plus advise what type of visa you have and when it expires/has expired?
Then I'll be able to help.

[lomuamart]

Damn folks. I'm half asleep. There are two posters.

[armycw4ret]

I have a non-imm multi entry O-A. I was extended to 6 Feb 2013 because of travel during my initial year. I entered the country on 5 Sep 2011 and traveled twice and was extended up to 6 Feb 2013. Will that date change once I return on 13 Dec? Should I get the muli entry permit now or wait until I do the annual extension and just do two single mult entry permits now? I was confused when you quoted June 2013?

[lomuamart]

Hopefully, I've answered both questions in the other post.
DB, yes after you've extended (you don't renew the visa), you'll need re-entry permits to travel.
To armycw4ret,
If you've got an OA visa that's expired you won't get another 90 days. You'll be stamped in until your current permitted to stay date - Feb 2013. Re-entry permits are timed to expire when your permitted to stay stamp expires - ie it'll be valid until Feb 2013 as well.
With the multi-entry OA you will always get another year's permitted to stay when you re-enter whilst the visa is valid (no need for re-entry as visa is multi entry). If you were to leave and come in a day before the visa expired, you'd get another year hence making the visa work for almost two. Re-entry permits are necessary in second year as visa will have expired.
In response to your last post, your visa has expired. Iy must have as you originally entered on it over a year ago. Therefore, you'll not receive any more time after 6th Feb 2013 permitted to stay that you already have.
You need to get the re-entry permits before you travel - dosn't take long. Even after you do an annual extension, you'll need re-entry permits

[Dannie Boy]

Hopefully, I've answered both questions in the other post.
DB, yes after you've extended (you don't renew the visa), you'll need re-entry permits to travel.
To armycw4ret,
If you've got an OA visa that's expired you won't get another 90 days. You'll be stamped in until your current permitted to stay date - Feb 2013. Re-entry permits are timed to expire when your permitted to stay stamp expires - ie it'll be valid until Feb 2013 as well.
With the multi-entry OA you will always get another year's permitted to stay when you re-enter whilst the visa is valid (no need for re-entry as visa is multi entry). If you were to leave and come in a day before the visa expired, you'd get another year hence making the visa work for almost two. Re-entry permits are necessary in second year as visa will have expired.
In response to your last post, your visa has expired. Iy must have as you originally entered on it over a year ago. Therefore, you'll not receive any more time after 6th Feb 2013 permitted to stay that you already have.
You need to get the re-entry permits before you travel - dosn't take long. Even after you do an annual extension, you'll need re-entry permits

Ok thanks - being a virgin, I thought (wrongly) that the one year extension would be on the same multiple-entry basis for the following year, but clearly not. Ok so lets assume I get my one year extension in June 2013 which covers me until June 2014. If I travel somewhere in May 2014 and return before the visa extension expires (say 31 May), while I still get a permitted to stay stamp until May 2015?

[lomuamart]

No, with the re-entry stamp you'll be permitted to stay until June 2014. Without the re-entry, you'll get 30 days (at the airport) and will have lost the original visa (even though expired) and the year's extension/permitted to stay date from it. You'll need another O or OA visa and start again.
The re-entry stamp is only valid until the original year's extension date expires as will your new permitted to stay stamp be. You'll not get any extra time when you re-enter.

[Dannie Boy]

No, with the re-entry stamp you'll be permitted to stay until June 2014. Without the re-entry, you'll get 30 days (at the airport) and will have lost the original visa (even though expired) and the year's extension/permitted to stay date from it. You'll need another O or OA visa and start again.
The re-entry stamp is only valid until the original year's extension date expires as will your new permitted to stay stamp be. You'll not get any extra time when you re-enter.

Sorry lomuamart but I am now confused so please bare with me as I try to explain my understanding.

My original one year OA visa expired September 2012 but because I travelled out of LOS and returned in June 2012, on re-entry I got a permission to stay stamp until 6 June 2013. I travelled again in Sept 2012, got a re-entry stamp before leaving and on return got my passport stamped allowing me to stay until 6 June 2013. So my understanding is that I need to apply for a one year visa extension in May 2013 which I assume will be valid for 12 months from the expiry of the current permission to stay stamp of 6th June 2013, i.e. until 5 June 2014. If I want to travel outside of LOS during June 2013-2014, I need to get a re-entry stamp before I travel (either single or multiple), but as in my previous post, if I were to travel and return by say 31 May 2014, do I get a one year permission to stay stamp when I return (i.e. 31 May 2015), or is the one year visa extension only good until the date it expires (5 June 2014) and I then have to apply for another one year extension?

Thanks in advance.

[lomuamart]

You've got it, DB.
On re-entry, you will only be stamped in until the date your annual extension expires. The re-entry permit will only be valid until then as well.

[Dannie Boy]

You've got it, DB.
On re-entry, you will only be stamped in until the date your annual extension expires. The re-entry permit will only be valid until then as well.

my friend

[Calvin]

Anyone know the actual penalty if your money is in the bank less than 3 months?

[Dannie Boy]

Anyone know the actual penalty if your money is in the bank less than 3 months?

No visa!!

[Calvin]

Anyone know the actual penalty if your money is in the bank less than 3 months?

No visa!!

Cheers but I was looking for an answer from someone who knows what they are talking about.

[Big Boy]

Discuss it with immigration, and they will help you find a solution - they did with me

[Dannie Boy]

Anyone know the actual penalty if your money is in the bank less than 3 months?

No visa!!

Cheers but I was looking for an answer from someone who knows what they are talking about.

Well it was 6 o'clock in the morning!! However, I don't think there is an official fine as such, but no doubt a contribution to their tea fund will find a solution. As BB has suggested, go and chat with one of the officers and see what they say.

[MrPlum]

I am sure, like me, other members are interested in this question. They may not be able to find the money in time. Or some unexpected call on their funds has left them short. Or they object to the bank making money from their locked-in cash and can do better.

I was once two weeks late with depositing funds and the penalty was around 4,900 thb. I have no idea if this is a standard penalty or whether it increases the longer you leave it.' Anyone?

Of course you can ask immigration but members, like BB, have some actual experience they may share.