Visiting Bangkokians - Don't We Love Them

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I thought it was their country and we are the guests
Every time I hear this overly used phrase from a farang, it makes my blood boil. Guests - Yes. But paying guests. And how we pay and jump through hoops to stay here.

Do you think the 'guests' in other countries (especially Europe) would be showing such gratitude for being there!!!!
Of course not.
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Khundon1975 wrote:BB Actually, it was the bloody great gates, that kept the cars out. :guns:
Your comments are telling me that this wasn't a very valued member of your staff - I'm actually surprised you gave him such a grand title of security guard. Maybe a well positioned door bell on your very large gates could have done an equally good job. :D

I find a padlock and a big dog work quite well. Nobody has got past our rotweiller yet to tell us they aren't happy that they can't park on my driveway. Cheaper than a security guard, and stops snakes also. However, I have no problem giving credit to my rotweiller :wink:
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HHTel wrote:Every time I hear this overly used phrase from a farang, it makes my blood boil.
Boiling blood sounds pretty unpleasant.

I have no wish to turn your temperature any higher but you do see what lies behind it. It's just a psychological trick to make one not end up hating the country and having to leave. A bit like going 'la la la la la. Not looking. Not looking.' at someone's current affairs posts. They see the same shortcomings as you but let it slide. Works for me.

On a practical note, I never drive down that road on a weekend unless I'm on a motosi. If you know there is likely to be a bottle-neck why go down there? You can bypass it by going over Hin Lek Fai or nip down one of the preceding sois to Petchkasem, where the traffic is always scant and cough.. cough.. runs smoothly.
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MrPlum wrote:On a practical note, I never drive down that road on a weekend unless I'm on a motosi. If you know there is likely to be a bottle-neck why go down there? You can bypass it by going over Hin Lek Fai or nip down one of the preceding sois to Petchkasem, where the traffic is always scant and cough.. cough.. runs smoothly.
OK, the truth :oops:

I was confused by the Friday Bank Holiday. My brain was telling me it was Monday, not Saturday. I also usually take the Hin Lek Fire route at busy times.
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Khundon1975 wrote:BB Actually, it was the bloody great gates, that kept the cars out. :guns:
Your comments are telling me that this wasn't a very valued member of your staff - I'm actually surprised you gave him such a grand title of security guard. Maybe a well positioned door bell on your very large gates could have done an equally good job. :D

I find a padlock and a big dog work quite well. Nobody has got past our rotweiller yet to tell us they aren't happy that they can't park on my driveway. Cheaper than a security guard, and stops snakes also. However, I have no problem giving credit to my rotweiller :wink:
BB He was not paid by me, he came with the house, along with his title.

As for getting a dog such as a Rottweiler, dirty, smelly, noisy animals, with a carbon footprint of 2 Toyota land cruisers! (it's the meat they eat) thanks, but no thanks. :duck:


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What surprises me, is that after years of planning your retirement in Thailand and after only a few months into what should be, many years of leisure and happiness, you go off on a rant, about subjects that have been discussed many times on the forum, instead of just shrugging them off.
Traffic gridlock, corrupt cops and Hi So's and the consensus always seems to come to the same conclusions. Cops are corrupt, traffic in HH is gridlocked during bank holidays and religious festivals and Hi So's don't give a toss about anyone but themselves.

It's not as though you did not know the situation in Hua Hin. These issues have been getting worse over the last 10 years to my knowledge, surely, you must have been aware of that!

Still, I suppose the odd :rant: now and then, does help to let off steam, on issues we have no control over.


As you seem to have attributed super powers to the guard in question, how about I give you his mobile number, so the next time you are stuck in traffic, you can give him a bell and he can come to your rescue by lifting your car and it's occupants over the obstruction.
He will however, have to change into his superman outfit in the back of your car, as there is a distinct lack of phone boxes in Hua Hin.

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Khundon1975 wrote:what should be, many years of leisure and happiness, you go off on a rant, about subjects that have been discussed many times on the forum, instead of just shrugging them off.
I honestly don't remember the subject of Bankokians needing their chicken fix each weekend ever being given as a reason for traffic conjestion in Hua Hin; or the subject ever being discussed here. It is an easily avoidable situation, yet nobody seems to want to get off their backsides to do anything about it. Yes, it is good to let off steam occassionally.

I actually wonder if it is the all powerful Bankokians or the Chicken Shop owner who is pulling the strings.

As I admitted earlier today, I would normally avoid that area on a weekend - it was just unfortunate that my ageing brain became confused after the Friday Bank Holiday i.e. that road is fine on a Monday.
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In all the years I've lived here. weekends have always been a nightmare. It will not get any better as the BK Hi-so's are increasing.

Nebkehardt where I used to live, used to be fairly quiet sleepy part of HH with middle class Thais in residence but soi 51 is now a race track for rich young Thais with high powered bikes and cars.

We have to accept it as progress and these Hi-so's have the money now and HH is very accessible.

Name of the game is to avoid weekends and holidays in town or tolerate the inconvenience. Nothing us farangs can do about it unless we create blockades with our SUV's but the MIB would pounce
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Guys - bank holiday weekends are a nightmare wherever you live.

I used to live on the south coast of England, and it was hell if there was a Monday holiday.
Everyone Londoner and their dog headed to the coast, the traffic jams were hideous.

Now living in Dubai, major holidays see the Saudis coming into town, 30 foot long SUV containing Maw, Paw and the 12 kids.
They sail across all lanes of the highway and park at a 45 degree angle to the kerb. Great fun!

Maybe the best idea would be to go against the flow, head to Bangkok for the holiday weekend.

Now on another matter, where is this chicken restaurant??? sounds like it might be worth a try......

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bonnielass wrote:Now on another matter, where is this chicken restaurant??? sounds like it might be worth a try......

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Well this thread's got most of us agreeing about those damn Hi-So's & their inconsiderate actions..5-5!
Never mind the motorists, what about when they WALK around town..?? They adopt the same attitude, & simply walk straight out & cross the road without any hessitation, or due regard for oncoming vehicles...never look at the drivers who've just had to brake, never appologise, just keep walking & talking as traffic halts because of them..see it mostly when there's 4-5 in a group..(never a drunken Thai motorcyclist when ya really need one..think Skittles/Ten-Pin bowling)!
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Yep, I've had a few walk straight into me (expecting me to move out of the way). I never yield to such rudeness, and their faces are a picture when they realise they've just walked into the proverbial brick sh*thouse. Of course they never apologise, and I just stare.
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Lovely country, but too many annoying Thais. Why don't they go somewhere else and just leave us alone?
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Big Boy it doesn't have to be chicken, they will do the same for noodles, pork or just about anything that tastes good, for many, but not all, rich Thais, parking their limos sensibly, comes way down their list of priorities, just as long as they are no more than 20 paces from the table. :tosser:

There was a noodle place just opposite us, that sold 2 simple chicken dishes, about Baht30 a go, Richard may remember it. Large open sided place with about 20 tables and the food stall at the front.
There were a large amount of limos that were parked in front on Saturday and Sunday lunchtimes, but luckily the road is wide, so no real problem, as they tended to patronise our place after they had dined and spend good money with us.

We ate there often, you know the type of dish, chicken drumsticks, chicken blood slices, noodles and herbs. The food was quite addictive and somebody inferred, that there was something extra in the sauce. :rasta: . Maybe that was why the customers came back time and time again. :idea: Could the same “special ingredient” be in the dishes that are sold at the place which caused your traffic problem?

I was once stopped from driving my car for over a week, back around 2001-2002!
I had bought a new car in BKK and we, together with the rest of the family, drove back to our place on Naebkehardt, parked up the two cars in the car port, had dinner and a few drinks, well a lot of drinks actually, then went to bed. Perchance to dream.

When I woke up in the morning, I went to check the mailbox, only to find that the Red or Green cross (can't remember which) had set up the fair in the road and had parked one of those kiddy roundabout rides, right outside our gate!
Customers on foot could get in and out, but there was no way our cars could!

My first thought was to get FIL to get them to move it, but we discussed it and came to the conclusion, that having the fair there was a good thing for us.
We had young nieces and other kids with us, so we took them out every night to have fun on the rides etc. and we all had a jolly good time. If we needed to get into town, we just phoned for a tuk tuk, or used a motor bike taxi.

I have an apology to make to you BB, about the statement I made in a previous post, that “all cops are crooked and all Hi So's are arrogant”. Sorry, but I find it's easier to agree with someone when they seem angry about a subject, so as not to inflame the situation, rather than tell it as I see it from my own experiences in Thailand.

We have made many good friends amongst the police (mainly through the FIL and our next door neighbour of our other place in Hua Hin, who is one of the chief's of police in BKK) and also amongst the BKK set, through the business.

Whilst I do agree, that many cops are lazy, arrogant and on the make, We are in danger of tarring them all with the same brush, as there are many who are very friendly and willing to help a farang and if treated with respect, will be a good friend for years.

Our neighbour, took my wife and I to a small restaurant, just north of the Palace, one of the soi's on the left that has an archway over the road, can't remember the number, but someone is bound to know it.

The place is owned by his brother, a retired BKK cop and is mainly frequented by cops.
There is a air-conditioned room with a blacked out glass door and if you open it, (something I would not recommend) you will find more high ranking cops and army officers from all over Thailand there, than you would find the equivalent ranks of British officers at the trooping of the colours, here in the UK. :-D

We were made to feel welcome by all the officers, who wined and dined us and we went home later, (by blue light taxi) having had a thoroughly good night. We were invited back many times and I don't remember ever paying a single Baht for anything, despite us trying to pay. Many of them also became customers of ours at the coffee shop.

OK, I agree, we have been lucky where cops are concerned, but there are, I believe, many cops out there that are not as bad as we always seem to read about on the Thailand forums.

Maybe all ex-pats need to do, is approach them and strike up a conversation, who knows, you may find they want to be friendly. You won't know unless you try.

Our experiences with the Hi So's have, in the main, been equally as good, at least those we met through the business.
Yes they are rich and many are professionals in some form or other, many from the film and television industry and others with large businesses, but on the whole, good to talk to and more than ready to become friends.
One chap, a recently retired admiral in the Thai navy, became a very good friend and we used to talk on many subjects. He always insisted on saluting me when he brought his family in to us, it was simply his way of showing his friendship and became a running joke between us.

I'm not in any way trying to excuse the behaviour of many Hi so's, just trying to show, that like the BIB, they are not all bad. A lot of their behaviour in instilled into them at an early age and they will never change, but the same applies to people from many nationalities, not just Thais.

For me, the most arrogant and rude person I ever met in Hua Hin, was a rich Englishman (I won't name him)
who was obnoxious in the extreme. He had been banned from many bars and restaurants.

He had Thai “girlfriends” (on long term hire) and treated them like dirt. I heard recently, that he went too far with someone in Hua Hin, who ended up twatting him and he scurried off back to the UK.

Good bloody riddance.

As for the parking issue in HH, well, we are all aware of local councils ability to forward plan, so plan for the worse, as this problem could well end in HH becoming gridlocked and we could all be on shankses pony within a few years.

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Khundon1975 wrote:Big Boy it doesn't have to be chicken, they will do the same for noodles, pork or just about anything that tastes good, for many, but not all, rich Thais, parking their limos sensibly, comes way down their list of priorities, just as long as they are no more than 20 paces from the table. :tosser:

There was a noodle place just opposite us, that sold 2 simple chicken dishes, about Baht30 a go, Richard may remember it. Large open sided place with about 20 tables and the food stall at the front.
There were a large amount of limos that were parked in front on Saturday and Sunday lunchtimes, but luckily the road is wide, so no real problem, as they tended to patronise our place after they had dined and spend good money with us.


We ate there often, you know the type of dish, chicken drumsticks, chicken blood slices, noodles and herbs. The food was quite addictive and somebody inferred, that there was something extra in the sauce. :rasta: . Maybe that was why the customers came back time and time again. :idea: Could the same “special ingredient” be in the dishes that are sold at the place which caused your traffic problem?

I was once stopped from driving my car for over a week, back around 2001-2002!
I had bought a new car in BKK and we, together with the rest of the family, drove back to our place on Naebkehardt, parked up the two cars in the car port, had dinner and a few drinks, well a lot of drinks actually, then went to bed. Perchance to dream.

When I woke up in the morning, I went to check the mailbox, only to find that the Red or Green cross (can't remember which) had set up the fair in the road and had parked one of those kiddy roundabout rides, right outside our gate!
Customers on foot could get in and out, but there was no way our cars could!

My first thought was to get FIL to get them to move it, but we discussed it and came to the conclusion, that having the fair there was a good thing for us.
We had young nieces and other kids with us, so we took them out every night to have fun on the rides etc. and we all had a jolly good time. If we needed to get into town, we just phoned for a tuk tuk, or used a motor bike taxi.

I have an apology to make to you BB, about the statement I made in a previous post, that “all cops are crooked and all Hi So's are arrogant”. Sorry, but I find it's easier to agree with someone when they seem angry about a subject, so as not to inflame the situation, rather than tell it as I see it from my own experiences in Thailand.

We have made many good friends amongst the police (mainly through the FIL and our next door neighbour of our other place in Hua Hin, who is one of the chief's of police in BKK) and also amongst the BKK set, through the business.

Whilst I do agree, that many cops are lazy, arrogant and on the make, We are in danger of tarring them all with the same brush, as there are many who are very friendly and willing to help a farang and if treated with respect, will be a good friend for years.

Our neighbour, took my wife and I to a small restaurant, just north of the Palace, one of the soi's on the left that has an archway over the road, can't remember the number, but someone is bound to know it.

The place is owned by his brother, a retired BKK cop and is mainly frequented by cops.
There is a air-conditioned room with a blacked out glass door and if you open it, (something I would not recommend) you will find more high ranking cops and army officers from all over Thailand there, than you would find the equivalent ranks of British officers at the trooping of the colours, here in the UK. :-D

We were made to feel welcome by all the officers, who wined and dined us and we went home later, (by blue light taxi) having had a thoroughly good night. We were invited back many times and I don't remember ever paying a single Baht for anything, despite us trying to pay. Many of them also became customers of ours at the coffee shop.

OK, I agree, we have been lucky where cops are concerned, but there are, I believe, many cops out there that are not as bad as we always seem to read about on the Thailand forums.

Maybe all ex-pats need to do, is approach them and strike up a conversation, who knows, you may find they want to be friendly. You won't know unless you try.

Our experiences with the Hi So's have, in the main, been equally as good, at least those we met through the business.
Yes they are rich and many are professionals in some form or other, many from the film and television industry and others with large businesses, but on the whole, good to talk to and more than ready to become friends.
One chap, a recently retired admiral in the Thai navy, became a very good friend and we used to talk on many subjects. He always insisted on saluting me when he brought his family in to us, it was simply his way of showing his friendship and became a running joke between us.

I'm not in any way trying to excuse the behaviour of many Hi so's, just trying to show, that like the BIB, they are not all bad. A lot of their behaviour in instilled into them at an early age and they will never change, but the same applies to people from many nationalities, not just Thais.

For me, the most arrogant and rude person I ever met in Hua Hin, was a rich Englishman (I won't name him)
who was obnoxious in the extreme. He had been banned from many bars and restaurants.

He had Thai “girlfriends” (on long term hire) and treated them like dirt. I heard recently, that he went too far with someone in Hua Hin, who ended up twatting him and he scurried off back to the UK.

Good bloody riddance.

As for the parking issue in HH, well, we are all aware of local councils ability to forward plan, so plan for the worse, as this problem could well end in HH becoming gridlocked and we could all be on shankses pony within a few years.

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