Work opportunities in Thailand/Hua Hin?
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I guess you could always try your hand in the bar scene and open a little place and keep teaching on the side. The big thing is you have to have some sort of income set up for when your getting older. As it sounds like you don`t have of a nest egg and you do not want to go else where not sure what to say. Just keep you eyes out and hope for the best I guess.
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If you haven't already, you should get your resume out to every IS in the land. They all recruit around the 1st of the year for the next school year beginning in August. Below is an example from Garden, Rayong and I would assume that others recruit just a much or more. It can't hurt and you could have a pleasant surprise. Moving someone here, some with spouses/family, providing free tuition for their kids, and a ton of other costs/perks they wouldn't have if they hired you. I would think that and your experience here could be a consideration over what could be a few gaps in your education. You can always enhance what you have on-line or in some other way. Pete
"....A number of our staff will also be leaving us at the end of the year, they are:
In Primary: Early Years – JS, Year 1 – SI, Year 4 – EH, Year 5 – BL and CH, Year 6 – KG.
In Secondary: Head of Mathematics – PC, Thai – KRC, Head of Science – GC, Library Assistant – KAC, Business – DT, Russian – ET, ELS/Science – JS, English – MT and MC and ICT – MB......."
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"....A number of our staff will also be leaving us at the end of the year, they are:
In Primary: Early Years – JS, Year 1 – SI, Year 4 – EH, Year 5 – BL and CH, Year 6 – KG.
In Secondary: Head of Mathematics – PC, Thai – KRC, Head of Science – GC, Library Assistant – KAC, Business – DT, Russian – ET, ELS/Science – JS, English – MT and MC and ICT – MB......."
Edit: Personal names removed for privacy reasons
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Hi GLC. I really do understand your dilemma. Especially the family ties thing regards HH. And I'm also pleased to see that you are giving the future some thought.
You've had a few suggestions which are worth following up IMO. The writing for one. But as I think you realise Rome wasn''t built in a day, and successful writing can take a hell of a lot of hard graft. You can't continue to make excuses about not having time.
The truth is that if you were still in England you probably wouldn't have a job which you enjoy so much. And if you did the stress levels would be through the roof. and the hours would be horrendous. Look what just happened to a teacher in Leeds for gods sake.
But the reality is also that if you stay in the LOS there will be no UK state pension to fall back on later. Big deal. If you were working over here you would be looking at working at least another 35 years anyway before getting just a basic state pension - and that's assumng we still have state pensions by then. As for occupational pensions in the UK - the way things are going you would have to fund a pension yourself, just as you are anticipating having to do in the LOS in some way.
When I left school many moons ago - in the 60's - it was assumed that our state pensions would be enough to live on reasonably well. Occupational pensions - when available - would provide the icing on the cake. How wrong can you be. Things are changing so quickly there is no longer any guarantee for people your age IMO. Which leaves you in the LOS for the foreseeable future - which is what you want anyway.
So why not take stock of life in Bangkok v HuaHIn? Economies of scale plus the support and security of family. Yes HH is getting more expensive, but you have Thai family which does make a dfference. Then think outside of the box. What other things could you do? Online qualifications? IT work?
To be brutally honest I do believe that expats of your age can lack the kind of business acumen and experience which Brits who have stayed home and followed a career path here often gain simply by working their way up in a job. The kind of training and motivation you need just isn't there in the LOS, so it will have to come from you. Get Googling and reading or whatever - best of luck, and let us know how you get on.
You've had a few suggestions which are worth following up IMO. The writing for one. But as I think you realise Rome wasn''t built in a day, and successful writing can take a hell of a lot of hard graft. You can't continue to make excuses about not having time.
The truth is that if you were still in England you probably wouldn't have a job which you enjoy so much. And if you did the stress levels would be through the roof. and the hours would be horrendous. Look what just happened to a teacher in Leeds for gods sake.
But the reality is also that if you stay in the LOS there will be no UK state pension to fall back on later. Big deal. If you were working over here you would be looking at working at least another 35 years anyway before getting just a basic state pension - and that's assumng we still have state pensions by then. As for occupational pensions in the UK - the way things are going you would have to fund a pension yourself, just as you are anticipating having to do in the LOS in some way.
When I left school many moons ago - in the 60's - it was assumed that our state pensions would be enough to live on reasonably well. Occupational pensions - when available - would provide the icing on the cake. How wrong can you be. Things are changing so quickly there is no longer any guarantee for people your age IMO. Which leaves you in the LOS for the foreseeable future - which is what you want anyway.
So why not take stock of life in Bangkok v HuaHIn? Economies of scale plus the support and security of family. Yes HH is getting more expensive, but you have Thai family which does make a dfference. Then think outside of the box. What other things could you do? Online qualifications? IT work?
To be brutally honest I do believe that expats of your age can lack the kind of business acumen and experience which Brits who have stayed home and followed a career path here often gain simply by working their way up in a job. The kind of training and motivation you need just isn't there in the LOS, so it will have to come from you. Get Googling and reading or whatever - best of luck, and let us know how you get on.
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Is suggest completing a degree in teaching + 1 specialist subject (English language/literacy, Mathis etc....).
This will them open doors at the many international schools in BKK. With you current TEFOL (I assume) experience you will be well equipped to land a position with a very comfortable salary.
You can complete degrees online these days, and although they don't carry as much weight as a bricks and mortar university, they are still a valid qualification.
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This will them open doors at the many international schools in BKK. With you current TEFOL (I assume) experience you will be well equipped to land a position with a very comfortable salary.
You can complete degrees online these days, and although they don't carry as much weight as a bricks and mortar university, they are still a valid qualification.
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If you have reasonably good IT skills, then have a look at project planning.
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Primavera P6 training courses are available online or classroom, with the nearest from here being Singapore.
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/appli ... index.html
http://www.askedu.net/training.asp?Cour ... 2GvHv1Zpjo
http://www.thales-ld.com/project-manage ... ng-courses
https://www.plannertuts.com/primavera-p ... source=PPC
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meh..who says you've got to work...
...if you still have your property in England (or wherever in Europe), you could release up to 85% of its value. ...depends on what is outstanding on it and what mortgage product is on it currently.
you could use this cash to tide you over while you focus on your book.
...if you still have your property in England (or wherever in Europe), you could release up to 85% of its value. ...depends on what is outstanding on it and what mortgage product is on it currently.
you could use this cash to tide you over while you focus on your book.
When nosy expats ask how can i live here without working, i reply, 'well, while you worked hard for 50 years, i worked smart for 5 years' 

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I don't think he has any property :s
It all depends on how 'long-term' you're planning. You've said going back to England isn't really and option - but it sounds like it may be your only option. I decided I wanted to move here just shy of 10 years ago; took me 7 years to finally make it happen.
Somebody's already asked if you have IT skills. If you have any at all further them and get yourself a degree. You could obviously do that in England or if you can afford it then you could do it remotely via the OU (it's not very expensive - or at least it wasn't when I was investigating that route myself).
Once you've got the degree you will almost certainly need to spend a couple of years back in England because I'm sure there aren't any postgrad positions here, not for farrangs. Once you've got a couple of years experience you have, at a minimum, the following three doors open to you:
1 - An IT job working for a firm here
2 - Working for yourself, as a sole trader in the UK but based here - Web/App Development, Tech support, SEO can all be done from across the sea.
3 - You might get very lucky and find yourself a UK firm who wouldn't mind you working, or may even find it advantageous for you to, work remotely
It all depends on how 'long-term' you're planning. You've said going back to England isn't really and option - but it sounds like it may be your only option. I decided I wanted to move here just shy of 10 years ago; took me 7 years to finally make it happen.
Somebody's already asked if you have IT skills. If you have any at all further them and get yourself a degree. You could obviously do that in England or if you can afford it then you could do it remotely via the OU (it's not very expensive - or at least it wasn't when I was investigating that route myself).
Once you've got the degree you will almost certainly need to spend a couple of years back in England because I'm sure there aren't any postgrad positions here, not for farrangs. Once you've got a couple of years experience you have, at a minimum, the following three doors open to you:
1 - An IT job working for a firm here
2 - Working for yourself, as a sole trader in the UK but based here - Web/App Development, Tech support, SEO can all be done from across the sea.
3 - You might get very lucky and find yourself a UK firm who wouldn't mind you working, or may even find it advantageous for you to, work remotely
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It's alright lads... we're sorted! Me and me Mam are going to chip in for a tenner's worth of lottery tickets each week. With 10 tickets we're bound to get lucky sooner or later...
Joking aside, I'm grateful for the responses given on this thread. I was expecting a backlash of tongue in cheek replies with maybe a dash of laughing (at me... not with me
). Would have maybe deserved it given a few of my 'episodes' on here. Fair play.
Pleng's right that I don't own any property. I came out here when I was 21 on a paid for Business Class ticket with a pound in my pocket... really!
I know furthering my education in specific fields is an option, but I'm not sure if I want to put 2-4 years of my time and a large chunk of money (in my world) into something that has no guarantees and possibly could amount to nothing. It seems incredibly difficult to get into a job nowadays without some sort of experience in the field (as Pleng has said above). Some people, I've heard, end up doing a year's work for free somewhere just so they can say they've got a year's experience under their belt. A Masters of Education, if it was even possible for me to do one from Thailand, would not mean I was secured I high paying teacher's job anywhere after either.
My I.T skills, in this day and age, are very much below average (though I am shit hot at PowerPoint... I have been known to sell the odd PowerPoint or two
) so don't think IT would be great for me (unless it's PowerPoint...). You never know though.
I'm not aiming to make a delusional amount of money here. I'm only trying to top up my salary by a mere 30-35,000 Baht if I can do it on the side of my job. Or find a job that can offer just that little bit more.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've got some decent advice from a fair few.


Joking aside, I'm grateful for the responses given on this thread. I was expecting a backlash of tongue in cheek replies with maybe a dash of laughing (at me... not with me

Pleng's right that I don't own any property. I came out here when I was 21 on a paid for Business Class ticket with a pound in my pocket... really!

I know furthering my education in specific fields is an option, but I'm not sure if I want to put 2-4 years of my time and a large chunk of money (in my world) into something that has no guarantees and possibly could amount to nothing. It seems incredibly difficult to get into a job nowadays without some sort of experience in the field (as Pleng has said above). Some people, I've heard, end up doing a year's work for free somewhere just so they can say they've got a year's experience under their belt. A Masters of Education, if it was even possible for me to do one from Thailand, would not mean I was secured I high paying teacher's job anywhere after either.
My I.T skills, in this day and age, are very much below average (though I am shit hot at PowerPoint... I have been known to sell the odd PowerPoint or two

I'm not aiming to make a delusional amount of money here. I'm only trying to top up my salary by a mere 30-35,000 Baht if I can do it on the side of my job. Or find a job that can offer just that little bit more.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've got some decent advice from a fair few.

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Do you tutor privately, out of work hours? If not there's an easy option, although I don't know how legal.
With 10 years experience (and 10 years worth of contacts/ideas) and a love for teaching have you thought about starting your own language school, start small and who knows. Again, I don't know the in's and out's.
With 10 years experience (and 10 years worth of contacts/ideas) and a love for teaching have you thought about starting your own language school, start small and who knows. Again, I don't know the in's and out's.
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Starting up a language school needs a very large chunk of money put into it. After setting up shop, you then need to convince the locals that your single shop is better than the other dozen established, expensively decorated language schools in the area. In their eyes, it's like offering them the choice of a Zinger burger or a stick of moo yang.zeitgeist wrote:Do you tutor privately, out of work hours? If not there's an easy option, although I don't know how legal.
With 10 years experience (and 10 years worth of contacts/ideas) and a love for teaching have you thought about starting your own language school, start small and who knows. Again, I don't know the in's and out's.


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That's the problem here. While there are plenty of ways to make money here, they all involve HAVING money in the first place; and not just the money you need to start and sustain the project; you need to have a good whack of back-up funds for if it all goes belly up.GLCQuantum wrote: Starting up a language school needs a very large chunk of money put into it.
Speaking of which... what happened to your plan to franchise a fast food joint?In their eyes, it's like offering them the choice of a Zinger burger or a stick of moo yang.
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Good luck to you, but what you really need ambition and drive.
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Good luck mate. Big world out there and at your age the world is your oyster.
If you're going to focus on remaining in the teaching profession there are plenty of teachers,academics (or pseudo academics) on the forum to advise you
My advice (having been in employment in many modes) is go with the flow and enjoy
If you're going to focus on remaining in the teaching profession there are plenty of teachers,academics (or pseudo academics) on the forum to advise you
My advice (having been in employment in many modes) is go with the flow and enjoy
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Seems like you feel that with every suggestion come a great obstacle.
There are no guarantees but you've gotta open your mind up more.
Can't this, won't that - not the attitude you need to succeed over here I'm afraid.
I'm sure all the guys on here will agree that life is not offered to you on a plate. Hard work, sacrifice and determination are the only ways to get ahead.
Best of luck with whatever choice you take.
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There are no guarantees but you've gotta open your mind up more.
Can't this, won't that - not the attitude you need to succeed over here I'm afraid.
I'm sure all the guys on here will agree that life is not offered to you on a plate. Hard work, sacrifice and determination are the only ways to get ahead.
Best of luck with whatever choice you take.
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very brave moving here with no assets back home 

When nosy expats ask how can i live here without working, i reply, 'well, while you worked hard for 50 years, i worked smart for 5 years' 
