I did a search on this but out of 399 hits, I did not find anything relevant.
I just today ( 13th) went in do my 90 day report. I thought for some reason that it was on the 20th, but when I checked today it turned out to be the 11th.
So I was 2 days late.
Now the slip of paper in my passport threatens dire consequences for lateness ( 5000 baht fine, 200 baht a day, etc etc) but the girl doing it didnt blink an eye: stamp, stamp, stamp. . . .stamp! ( stamp, stamp) There is my renewal. No fine, nothing. Not a satang.
Is this usual? Was she just being nice? Did she just not know? Was I a fool to worry at all?
A note that might help everyone. They have moved the 90 day office across the hall from the main office and there is a tiny sign on the door announcing that fact. May save you a long wait on those plastic chairs!!
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As long as the 'bad' stamp is on the paper and not in your passport, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I would worry though what may happen the 2nd or 3rd time you may be late as this initial incident is probably in their computer now. I don't know the penalities but wouldn't make a habit of it. Pete 
You're the lucky one, the miserable git that did mine fined me 2,000 AND stuck a big black stamp in my passport.
This was for the 90 day report, not over staying my visa.
This was for the 90 day report, not over staying my visa.
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The slip of paper is just standard.
The lady in the Hua Hin office told me that they allow you 7 days either way for reporting but this is Thailand so who knows whether this is the same everywhere. Not worth risking it.
There is a small sign on the door indicating '90 day reporting' but I too didn't notice it, so stood around the main office for a while before being directed across the corridor. Then it took me about 2 minutes to complete the form and was also given a blank form to complete in advance for the next time.
Where you more than 7 days late, bucksida?
The lady in the Hua Hin office told me that they allow you 7 days either way for reporting but this is Thailand so who knows whether this is the same everywhere. Not worth risking it.
There is a small sign on the door indicating '90 day reporting' but I too didn't notice it, so stood around the main office for a while before being directed across the corridor. Then it took me about 2 minutes to complete the form and was also given a blank form to complete in advance for the next time.
Where you more than 7 days late, bucksida?
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The original little piece of paper with the correct date ( 11th) is gone from my passport, and in its place is stapled the standard "Reciept of Notification"
Interestingly this states " Have recieved notification of staying for 90 days from 13 Dec 2006. .but the stamp at the bottom says to come back for my next renewal on 11 March 2007. That is the original date!
Nothing is stamped in my passport at all.
I sure would like to know if that seven days of grace is REAL or just a dream! I could still get caught the next time I report based on this piece of paper showing the 2 day discrepency.
OK. What if I do the next one two days EARLY. .will the math even out then or what? ( And do they really put this into the computer?)
Slightly different note. Have used this forum information extensively to prepare for my Thai Driver's licence and I will do so on Friday. (Taking the Thai spouse along and planning to let him handle the whole thing as much as possible.) Thanks to all of you for having this forum in the first place and for your very helpful responses. I'll post what happens so everyone will have the very latest from the DMV in Pranburi.
Interestingly this states " Have recieved notification of staying for 90 days from 13 Dec 2006. .but the stamp at the bottom says to come back for my next renewal on 11 March 2007. That is the original date!
Nothing is stamped in my passport at all.
I sure would like to know if that seven days of grace is REAL or just a dream! I could still get caught the next time I report based on this piece of paper showing the 2 day discrepency.
OK. What if I do the next one two days EARLY. .will the math even out then or what? ( And do they really put this into the computer?)
Slightly different note. Have used this forum information extensively to prepare for my Thai Driver's licence and I will do so on Friday. (Taking the Thai spouse along and planning to let him handle the whole thing as much as possible.) Thanks to all of you for having this forum in the first place and for your very helpful responses. I'll post what happens so everyone will have the very latest from the DMV in Pranburi.
I get confused by visa dates as well. However, I would suggest that as you were two days late, you don't actually "gain" two days. The next 90 day reporting is entered from the date you were supposed to have done it in the first place. Regardless of a 7 day grace period.
That would be my only guess.
Don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Just looking at it, if you count 90 days from the 13th Dec, you get 13th March. So, they've simply calculated your 90 days from the correct date of this month's reporting. 11th March 2007.
That would be my only guess.
Don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Just looking at it, if you count 90 days from the 13th Dec, you get 13th March. So, they've simply calculated your 90 days from the correct date of this month's reporting. 11th March 2007.
Thinking about it a bit more, I've extended Tourist visas in the past, but up to anything like a week before the entry stamp expired. I always got an extra 30 days from when that original entry stamp finished. Ie, I didn't lose a week.
So, I really don't think you've anything to worry about. You've complied with the regulations - within a 7 day grace period.
Reporting 7 days before, or 7 days after, the stipulated date won't make any difference to the next date. That's calculated from the initial extension.
Hope I'm right.
NB others. Don't overstay a tourist visa. You have no latitude on that. It's a fine - at best.
So, I really don't think you've anything to worry about. You've complied with the regulations - within a 7 day grace period.
Reporting 7 days before, or 7 days after, the stipulated date won't make any difference to the next date. That's calculated from the initial extension.
Hope I'm right.
NB others. Don't overstay a tourist visa. You have no latitude on that. It's a fine - at best.
Thanks but. .
Jockey, how do you know this? (How I wish my Thai were more adequate. and I could have asked them. . though the woman who did the deed barely looked up and didn't seem very friendly))
I meant to ask earlier. . .does anyone have friends ( family? drinking buddies? mates?) at this office who might give accurate information on this and other visa issues which seem to be such a huge source of confusion. . not to say panic. . .in this on-line community. Does the farang community have any resource here beyond being herded around willy-nilly without any explanations, and trying to find out how to do things correctly ( and I do know that these things are always changing. But wihtout this forum, how would you ever know?)
I meant to ask earlier. . .does anyone have friends ( family? drinking buddies? mates?) at this office who might give accurate information on this and other visa issues which seem to be such a huge source of confusion. . not to say panic. . .in this on-line community. Does the farang community have any resource here beyond being herded around willy-nilly without any explanations, and trying to find out how to do things correctly ( and I do know that these things are always changing. But wihtout this forum, how would you ever know?)
Re: Thanks but. .
They told me, (the good people at Hua Hin Immigration). They explained it to me in almost perfect English. I was 8 days late and they explained to me I wouldn't have been fined if I had been less than 7 days late. Next time I was 2 days late and wasn't fined. Not very complicated!Chas wrote:Jockey, how do you know this?
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Thanks Jocky. Thats good enough for me. The fact that at 8 days you got fined and at 2 you didnt relieves my mind. I am usually very careful about these things too.
But I got to wondering if there is a booklet somewhere with all the current visa laws written up in clear, concise English for resident foreigners.
Anyone know? And wouldn't this be a good thing?
I also wondered what sorts of efforts are made by the Thai government to inform people (esp farangs) when they change laws that affect them. Say they make some major change next week concerning reporting ( making it monthly for example) would we ever find out or just get fined when we turn up waaaay late?
Again, I am grateful for this forum as it is the first place I come when I need HH or Thai info. . .but the government doesnt use it to communicate with us, ( does it?) nor do I expect a letter in the mail telling me of visa changes that might affect me.
But I got to wondering if there is a booklet somewhere with all the current visa laws written up in clear, concise English for resident foreigners.
Anyone know? And wouldn't this be a good thing?I also wondered what sorts of efforts are made by the Thai government to inform people (esp farangs) when they change laws that affect them. Say they make some major change next week concerning reporting ( making it monthly for example) would we ever find out or just get fined when we turn up waaaay late?
Again, I am grateful for this forum as it is the first place I come when I need HH or Thai info. . .but the government doesnt use it to communicate with us, ( does it?) nor do I expect a letter in the mail telling me of visa changes that might affect me.
For all of you people who are woried about if the 7 days leeway is Ok. Why bother chancing it, you all know how things can change from day to day.
Make a note a on your diary a week before it runs out, and make sure you get there in time. You would all be the first to complain if they kicked you out. It is no ones fault other than you own, so is no good blaming the Thai's for enforcing their policies.
I am sure you are all aware of what happened to the Visa Runners bus that got stopped and all of the overstayers banged up for a week or so. Learn from it and make sure that you always renew on time.
Make a note a on your diary a week before it runs out, and make sure you get there in time. You would all be the first to complain if they kicked you out. It is no ones fault other than you own, so is no good blaming the Thai's for enforcing their policies.
I am sure you are all aware of what happened to the Visa Runners bus that got stopped and all of the overstayers banged up for a week or so. Learn from it and make sure that you always renew on time.
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Here Here!chelsea wrote:For all of you people who are woried about if the 7 days leeway is Ok. Why bother chancing it, you all know how things can change from day to day.
Make a note a on your diary a week before it runs out, and make sure you get there in time. You would all be the first to complain if they kicked you out. It is no ones fault other than you own, so is no good blaming the Thai's for enforcing their policies.
I am sure you are all aware of what happened to the Visa Runners bus that got stopped and all of the overstayers banged up for a week or so. Learn from it and make sure that you always renew on time.