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Getting a divorce before leaving Thailand?

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Hi there forum,

I came here around 10 months ago, got married to a Thai women, but it's a total joke (not the funny sort obviously)

I just want to jump on a plane, and head back to the uk and forget about all things Thai, especially women.
I have no intention of remarrying - ever.

Now, can I do it without worrying abut any repercussions in the uk, or do I need to try and persuade her to come to the amphur with me (which would be a nightmare and I may end up dead on the way there, it's out of town a bit) in order to divorce.

Any advice?

Feel free to call me a complete and utter twat, etc - nothing can be worse than what I am calling myself.

Many thanks forum,

Brin

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Jump on a plane buddy any recorce from her will be unlikely unless you've lived here in the UK. Use your instincts she won't want loss of face at the Amphers office but more so with friends and family.
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I agree with Kendo - jump on a plane. Too many people on here have seen what can happen when things go wrong and it isn't always loss of the Thais' face - especially when family are involved, as I think you realise.

As for 'repercussions' in the UK I assume you mean of the legal kind? Others might know more about that but if your marriage wasn't formalised at the Embassy I wouldn't have thought there is anything to worry about.
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margaretcarnes wrote:I agree with Kendo - jump on a plane.

As for 'repercussions' in the UK I assume you mean of the legal kind? Others might know more about that but if your marriage wasn't formalised at the Embassy I wouldn't have thought there is anything to worry about.
:agree:
As far as I know marriages in Thailand are not legally recognized in the U.S., so if a couple got married in Thailand they would have to get married again in the U.S. in order for it to be recognized under U.S. Laws and to claim marriage benefits in the U.S.
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Well, Thai marriages are certainly recognised in UK. But, they only know what you tell them. As for the lady, she will be forever unable to formally remarry in Thailand unless she agrees to a divorce with the OP.
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^^ Just to add, eventually she'd be able to apply to a court for a divorce on the grounds of something like abandonment. But that will certainly be a hassle for her and her new mark... err, love.
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Name Taken wrote:
margaretcarnes wrote:I agree with Kendo - jump on a plane.

As for 'repercussions' in the UK I assume you mean of the legal kind? Others might know more about that but if your marriage wasn't formalised at the Embassy I wouldn't have thought there is anything to worry about.
:agree:
As far as I know marriages in Thailand are not legally recognized in the U.S., so if a couple got married in Thailand they would have to get married again in the U.S. in order for it to be recognized under U.S. Laws and to claim marriage benefits in the U.S.
Marriages in Thailand are legal and reconized in the US. As long as you register your marriage in Thailand and Thailand sees it as legal the US also sees it as legal and it's reconized. If you do just a village wedding and don't register it then the US government will not reconize it.
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Arlo wrote:
Name Taken wrote:
margaretcarnes wrote:I agree with Kendo - jump on a plane.

As for 'repercussions' in the UK I assume you mean of the legal kind? Others might know more about that but if your marriage wasn't formalised at the Embassy I wouldn't have thought there is anything to worry about.
:agree:
As far as I know marriages in Thailand are not legally recognized in the U.S., so if a couple got married in Thailand they would have to get married again in the U.S. in order for it to be recognized under U.S. Laws and to claim marriage benefits in the U.S.
Marriages in Thailand are legal and reconized in the US. As long as you register your marriage in Thailand and Thailand sees it as legal the US also sees it as legal and it's reconized. If you do just a village wedding and don't register it then the US government will not reconize it.
But the OP is from the UK not the US, so it's the rules there that apply. As has been said a marriage in Thailand is recognised in the UK if you have been to the Embassy in Bangkok and got the certificates attested, but without that, the OP is probably safe from any comeback. I fully support the advice to get out sooner rather than later and let the dust settle - hopefully that will be the end of it. I forgot to add, as some others have advised, don't tell her you're leaving, just book your flight and go to the airport without telling a soul.
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Hey guys,

many thanks indeed for your input. And for you understanding also.

I never took the certificates to get attested. But I did get them translated into English and gave them to the Embassy as part of the visa application for her Entry Clearance into the uk (which go rejected due to her history)

Would that count?

And if it did count, could I still have some stress in the UK?

Again, thanks guys for chipping in here...

Many thanks forum

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brin.fench wrote: I never took the certificates to get attested. But I did get them translated into English and gave them to the Embassy as part of the visa application for her Entry Clearance into the uk (which go rejected due to her history)

Would that count?
No, I don't think so. Such info would be recorded for UK immigration purposes only.
I have no direct experience of your circumstances, but I can't think of any possible come back on you once you're in the UK.
If your situation is as bad as you say, you need to cut your losses and scram - as has been said, without telling her.
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Don't forget to empty the bank accounts on the day you leave.............
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dtaai-maai wrote: No, I don't think so. Such info would be recorded for UK immigration purposes only.
I have no direct experience of your circumstances, but I can't think of any possible come back on you once you're in the UK.
If your situation is as bad as you say, you need to cut your losses and scram - as has been said, without telling her.
Thanks greatly - I'm already checking out flights.
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robcar wrote:Don't forget to empty the bank accounts on the day you leave.............
Well fortunately I still have only UK accounts - I'll leave her with 1 months rent and 2 months bills to pay I think...this new apartment has not been signed yet, so she will need to deal with it.

Usually I would sort all that out, but I really do have to flee from here.
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I would suggest that you change the pin numbers of any accounts that you have, here and the UK , as she may well have 'found' them.
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Dannie Boy wrote:
Arlo wrote:
Name Taken wrote:
:agree:
As far as I know marriages in Thailand are not legally recognized in the U.S., so if a couple got married in Thailand they would have to get married again in the U.S. in order for it to be recognized under U.S. Laws and to claim marriage benefits in the U.S.
Marriages in Thailand are legal and reconized in the US. As long as you register your marriage in Thailand and Thailand sees it as legal the US also sees it as legal and it's reconized. If you do just a village wedding and don't register it then the US government will not reconize it.
But the OP is from the UK not the US, so it's the rules there that apply. As has been said a marriage in Thailand is recognised in the UK if you have been to the Embassy in Bangkok and got the certificates attested, but without that, the OP is probably safe from any comeback. I fully support the advice to get out sooner rather than later and let the dust settle - hopefully that will be the end of it. I forgot to add, as some others have advised, don't tell her you're leaving, just book your flight and go to the airport without telling a soul.
Yes I understand the OP is from the UK. I was replying to Name Takens response. He mentioned the US and I was trying to clarify those laws for anyone that might be reading this from the USA.
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