Ok onlyme,
You've told us nothing new. It isn't a fixed figure as you suggest. It comes as 60% of your state pension. Proof of marriage etc. Has replaced what used to be the married man's pension.
Retirement Visa renewal
At the end of the day, a lot of people reporting on this branch appear to believe that their state pension will be affected. They're correct.Ok onlyme,
You've told us nothing new. It isn't a fixed figure as you suggest. It comes as 60% of your state pension. Proof of marriage etc. Has replaced what used to be the married man's pension.
I was only pointing out ( to them )That maybe, they could get additional payments from the UK goverment!
I'm very sorry if I have upset you!
Onlyme.
PS. I'd like to think that I have got some people to look into it!
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I think my point is proven on the above statement.The problem (I'm listening to hearsay now) is that I'm told that once you register with the Embassy, your state pension is frozen to the value when you leave the UK and is not subject to future increases. Maybe someone can enlighten me or dispute that categorically.
Next thing is....You know everything about additional payments?
Above was listening to hearsay!
I'm gobsmacked.
Onlyme.
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HERE IS A THOUGHT........
I live in Thailand and elsewhere, sort of back and forth. Not liking to see myself full time in the various "locals of self indulgence' etc I'm planning a real go at HH.....Blah Blah Blah...
About My Visa.
Here is what I do.....I renew every year outside of Thailand. Easy...I get an "O-A good for Multiple Jouneys" which gives me a stamp good for 1 year upon entry even if my visa has only one day left...That is the rules...As was with my exit from the Kingdom recently my visa has expired and will get a new one including the "Multiple Jopurneys"which makes it good for up to two years effectively. I come and I go but after one visit to Immi in Down Town BKK I said there has to be a better way. All I wanted there was to get the Multiple ReEntry permit which is about 1K baht more than what I pay FOR THE WHOLE VISA OUTSIDE OF LOS. I suppose this might be a bit more complicated as I see many are here from the UK. For me stopping in at one of the many Thai Offices in the U.S. is no problem. I even stretch it more....I used a letter from my Investment Broker stating that value of my acct is over 25K U.S., submit the same med form from some Thai Clinic, in Thai which they must accept, For the police report thing no problem....That can be done over the phone and mailed....Total time is usuallyt about 30 min and I get the Multiple Reenty Permic all for 69$ USD.....
Am I missing anythng other than the Thai Caveat Emptor of TIT... I have never had any problems. the only hitch might be is that I use my BKK hotel as my address but that is on my DL also. I have a mail box there etc!
This might be of some help to other?????
When tiome comes I'll change my DL to HH etc...No where has any Immi people ever taken my address.....I have co signed a truck loan in Issan, made a promissory note for a bill at a beauity school, and gotton a Bangkok Bank account and Visa Card! I have a Budget rental card and
some Thai Airways stuff...... I'm think the I could continue do it the easy way.............. Does this work for others and most importantly, Am I Missing Something....
About My Visa.
Here is what I do.....I renew every year outside of Thailand. Easy...I get an "O-A good for Multiple Jouneys" which gives me a stamp good for 1 year upon entry even if my visa has only one day left...That is the rules...As was with my exit from the Kingdom recently my visa has expired and will get a new one including the "Multiple Jopurneys"which makes it good for up to two years effectively. I come and I go but after one visit to Immi in Down Town BKK I said there has to be a better way. All I wanted there was to get the Multiple ReEntry permit which is about 1K baht more than what I pay FOR THE WHOLE VISA OUTSIDE OF LOS. I suppose this might be a bit more complicated as I see many are here from the UK. For me stopping in at one of the many Thai Offices in the U.S. is no problem. I even stretch it more....I used a letter from my Investment Broker stating that value of my acct is over 25K U.S., submit the same med form from some Thai Clinic, in Thai which they must accept, For the police report thing no problem....That can be done over the phone and mailed....Total time is usuallyt about 30 min and I get the Multiple Reenty Permic all for 69$ USD.....
Am I missing anythng other than the Thai Caveat Emptor of TIT... I have never had any problems. the only hitch might be is that I use my BKK hotel as my address but that is on my DL also. I have a mail box there etc!
This might be of some help to other?????
When tiome comes I'll change my DL to HH etc...No where has any Immi people ever taken my address.....I have co signed a truck loan in Issan, made a promissory note for a bill at a beauity school, and gotton a Bangkok Bank account and Visa Card! I have a Budget rental card and
some Thai Airways stuff...... I'm think the I could continue do it the easy way.............. Does this work for others and most importantly, Am I Missing Something....
Don't think you are missing anything, FR.
As you say, get a multi-entry OA in your home country (or other mission abroad, I believe) and get a year's stamp on entry. Exit and re-enter just before it expires and you'll get a further year. So, it effectively works for 2 years.
I'd be interested to know how many times you can get this type of visa. I could be totally wrong, but I thought you were basically saying to The Emb/consulate that you wanted to check Thailand out for retirement first before making the plunge. If that's the case, then too many of those visas would probably raise eyebrows at some point in time. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to how many you've had. Could be useful info for other readers who may not want to spend all their time here on retirement extensions, but flit about. Saves on the reporting as well, I presume if you're given a year's "permitted to stay" entry stamp. So, I suppose the question is - is there a limit to how many multi-entry OA visas you can get?
If you can get unlimited numbers of the OAs, then the only drawback would appear to be that you've got to travel to get a second and subsequent ones. If you think about it, the multi-entry Non O that I'm on at the moment can work for 15 months (exiting every 90 days). So, it's not as good as yours, but the principle's the same in as much as if I don't extend that for a year here (on the basis of marriage), I'd have to go back to the UK (or KL at the moment) to get another one.
If you're travelling back and forth anyway and you can get repeat OA visas when you want, I'd reckon you're laughing all the way through. Others, of course, won't want to make the journey every two years, so they extend annually.
That's all I can think of.
As you say, get a multi-entry OA in your home country (or other mission abroad, I believe) and get a year's stamp on entry. Exit and re-enter just before it expires and you'll get a further year. So, it effectively works for 2 years.
I'd be interested to know how many times you can get this type of visa. I could be totally wrong, but I thought you were basically saying to The Emb/consulate that you wanted to check Thailand out for retirement first before making the plunge. If that's the case, then too many of those visas would probably raise eyebrows at some point in time. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to how many you've had. Could be useful info for other readers who may not want to spend all their time here on retirement extensions, but flit about. Saves on the reporting as well, I presume if you're given a year's "permitted to stay" entry stamp. So, I suppose the question is - is there a limit to how many multi-entry OA visas you can get?
If you can get unlimited numbers of the OAs, then the only drawback would appear to be that you've got to travel to get a second and subsequent ones. If you think about it, the multi-entry Non O that I'm on at the moment can work for 15 months (exiting every 90 days). So, it's not as good as yours, but the principle's the same in as much as if I don't extend that for a year here (on the basis of marriage), I'd have to go back to the UK (or KL at the moment) to get another one.
If you're travelling back and forth anyway and you can get repeat OA visas when you want, I'd reckon you're laughing all the way through. Others, of course, won't want to make the journey every two years, so they extend annually.
That's all I can think of.
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I have never heard of these visas that get you a 12 month stamp on entry - where can I find more information on them, as I have never seen it anywhere? Or is it only for certain nationalities, or people over a certain age? I have heard of O-A visas before but I was under the impression that they only allowed 90 days at a time. Has someone (lomu?) got a relevant link that I can read more about them?
I will say it stuns me i have never heard of it multi entry non O one year 90 days exit /enter can give 15 months but 2 years is a brand spanking new one to me and i am sure someone would have trumpeted that long and loud
Small point retirement means 90 day reporting marriage visas req 90 day reporting b visas req reporting
me smell um sumfing not took dong here methinks
Small point retirement means 90 day reporting marriage visas req 90 day reporting b visas req reporting
me smell um sumfing not took dong here methinks
A Greatfull Guest of Thailand
WL,
I've been looking for a link, but can't see one in The Police Order that brought in the changes on Oct 1st 2006. (The type of visa's been around longer then that anyway).
However, the OA visa does exist, but only for those who are looking to retire and it can only be obtained outside of Thailand (and most probably only in your home country).
People wanting to come here and retire can get a Non O visa (normally single entry these days from a neighbouring country) and extend it for a year as we all know.
However, another alternative is to get a non Imm category OA. I'm pretty sure that this can only be applied for in your home country, as I've mooted and other than the usual financial requirements for retirement, a police report and medical are necessary. The visa's valid for a year, but I'd bet that 90 day reporting is necessary. It does seem, however, that if you've got a multi-entry OA visa, you can get another year's validity to it on any entry into The Kingdom whilst the original visa is still valid. Hence potentially working for two years.
Hopefully, FutureResident can fill the blanks in.
As an aside, when I was down in Ranong 3 months ago getting my 90 day entry stamp, I asked the Head of Imm what he would like to see to give me a year's extension based on marriage to a Thai (this was before I'd spoken to HH). He just rattled on about getting an OA visa. I did point out that despite a very late night in Chumpon the day before, I surely didn't look 50 yet. He laughed
I've been looking for a link, but can't see one in The Police Order that brought in the changes on Oct 1st 2006. (The type of visa's been around longer then that anyway).
However, the OA visa does exist, but only for those who are looking to retire and it can only be obtained outside of Thailand (and most probably only in your home country).
People wanting to come here and retire can get a Non O visa (normally single entry these days from a neighbouring country) and extend it for a year as we all know.
However, another alternative is to get a non Imm category OA. I'm pretty sure that this can only be applied for in your home country, as I've mooted and other than the usual financial requirements for retirement, a police report and medical are necessary. The visa's valid for a year, but I'd bet that 90 day reporting is necessary. It does seem, however, that if you've got a multi-entry OA visa, you can get another year's validity to it on any entry into The Kingdom whilst the original visa is still valid. Hence potentially working for two years.
Hopefully, FutureResident can fill the blanks in.
As an aside, when I was down in Ranong 3 months ago getting my 90 day entry stamp, I asked the Head of Imm what he would like to see to give me a year's extension based on marriage to a Thai (this was before I'd spoken to HH). He just rattled on about getting an OA visa. I did point out that despite a very late night in Chumpon the day before, I surely didn't look 50 yet. He laughed
Here we go:
http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2482.php?id=2493
Still. No mention of a multi-entry and the "second year".
http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2482.php?id=2493
Still. No mention of a multi-entry and the "second year".
Sarge,
Nothing to do with a diplomatic visa. It's a long-stay retirement Non Imm category OA.
Basically, for those coming here to retire, they can do "the extension" in their home country first with the provisos that they have the requisite funds, a police and medical report.
These people will have a stamp for a year (just as you must have after extending in Thailand), but have to report every 90 days.
The only difference is that they got the privelege back in their home country.
Looking at it again and again, I'm sure people with the OA will confirm that if they arrived in Thailand today 28/03/07, they would get an permitted to stay stamp in their passport until 27/03/08. However, they must do the reporting.
Does that make sense. It does to me and I'd heard of these visas before, just didn't realise how they worked in practice until today.
Nothing to do with a diplomatic visa. It's a long-stay retirement Non Imm category OA.
Basically, for those coming here to retire, they can do "the extension" in their home country first with the provisos that they have the requisite funds, a police and medical report.
These people will have a stamp for a year (just as you must have after extending in Thailand), but have to report every 90 days.
The only difference is that they got the privelege back in their home country.
Looking at it again and again, I'm sure people with the OA will confirm that if they arrived in Thailand today 28/03/07, they would get an permitted to stay stamp in their passport until 27/03/08. However, they must do the reporting.
Does that make sense. It does to me and I'd heard of these visas before, just didn't realise how they worked in practice until today.
As per usual Lomu, you have it exactly as it is.lomuamart wrote:Does that make sense. It does to me and I'd heard of these visas before, just didn't realise how they worked in practice until today.
It also lays it out here:
http://www2.tat.or.th/longstay/oavisa1.html#top
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Doesn`t seem to work, going on some of the posts on here!!!!!STEVE G wrote:I think it's a good thing that one of the requirements listed there is:2.6 Verification stating that the applicant has no criminal record issued from the country of his/her nationality
or residence (the verification shall be valid for no more than 3 months).
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